Dick Smith Population Puzzle

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japie
japie
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15 Aug 2010 12:09am
cisco said...

japie said...
When people finally wake up to the fact that our system is completely corrupt and change it for a better system we will come of age as a species and realise our true potential.

And, Saltiest, in that system there will be no Barbie in Fairytopia. Your average nine year old daughter will likely be studying calculus and playing a musical instrument in concerts when she is not with her family and friends. She will not be subject to the eternal mindless claptrap that is used to dumb our kids down and keep them on the wheel and as far away from possible to their true potential.




Very well said japie. The dumbing down of our children is I believe the most criminal thing happening in our society.

BTW Does anybody else on the forum besides japie and I know what the word "japie" (pronounced yaarpy) means. Maybe japie could explain.


It is horrible isn't it? My housemate and I baby sit a five year old. I reckon i could graph accuratley her bad behaviour spikes to sugar intake. I am sure everyone can quote an example.

We have an uninvited guest, 21 years old from out west NSW, staying at the moment, for the past 8 weeks, hopefully soon gone, who has absolutely no concept of the real world. There have been some very brusque conversations and hopefully some ground made but I shake my head to think that there are young men out there, who have half the concept of how to behave that I did at the age of fifteen.

Lilly, our frequent little five year old guest, relishes in walks on the beach, something only I seem to achieve. Her mum shakes her head when she brings home a very smelly and dead mutton bird I have told her she can keep as a pet. Or that seaweed is mermaid poo and if you can get a big enough hand net you are going to catch a whale. I have told her tomorrow if the tide is right

We play burn your feet off when the white water from waves hits you on it's way up but you can hop back at it and stomp a foot back as it goes out as long as you hit the froth.

When we do this she is on another planet. Her screams are screams of glee. It is something to see an athletic five year old fleeing from the wash for fear of her feet burning off with a smile that would light up a tomb.

It is deliberate Cisco, this dumbing down of that I have no doubt.

What good is it to an inherently corrupt society to have a large percentage of informed people? Can only lead to trouble!

I got the nickname Japie when I emmigrated from SA. I am actually not South African. I was born in Burundi, spent 12 years in Tanzania before the folks, poms in the Colonial service, moved to the Republic which I left in 1979.

I was the second Japie (south african) at the Albury Rugby Club and it stuck.

The origions, in my understanding, come from the common christian name Jaap in Dutch. Popular in farming communities in South Africa it became a label for criticism as in PlaasJapie, or redneck farmer. Got shortened to Japie and then tagged to any one who came out of the Republic.

Bit like Kiwis and sheep really
log man
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15 Aug 2010 1:07am
FormulaNova said...

log man said...

Formulanova: sure Australia of the 1950's and 1960s had wide open spaces and a great climate and a freedom to do things that maybe we miss decades later but I think we definatly look back with rose coloured glasses. I remember Tassie in the sixties and seventies not as a haven but as a place where intolerance reined and a frontier mentality meant small mindedness usually led to the exodus of anyone 18 and over . And to some extent most of Australia still suffers from the limitation of small populations. Big cities have layers of sophistication that drive culture and Dick Smiths premise for the whole doco is predicated on the theory that big cities are bad and 1'4 acre blocks are good . I don't buy it


Hey, I'm not that old! I was born in the seventies, and even then, 1/4 acre blocks were the norm and everyone had a yard to play in, if not in the middle of the street. I have a yard about that size now, but I can see that if there is no decent amount of land opened up, areas like this will be developed and I worry that you won't be able to have a decent size yard within commuting distance of the CBD.

Big cities become a bit impersonal and I think it creates its own problems.

Why not have an Australia where those that want to live in a city can, in high density or medium density housing? If we had decent transport systems, it would even allow people to retain a decent amount of yard space and work in the city if needed.

Maybe a bigger population could be acceptable, but the politicians want them all to be crammed into the existing cities as it involves less work on infrastructure.





Formulanova I think your last two paragraphs summed this whole thing up pretty well. In a way we already have choice in where we live ,though the costs of housing seems to determine the proximity to the city. Though, the desire to own land and a yard or whatever ultimately destroys our sense of community that you often see in big cities like NYC. shared open spaces in many big cities are meccas for all sorts of life and activity that includes rather than excludes. Our more privatized Australian suburbs alienate people from each other where as apartment style living tends to draw people together through a shared experience. But one things for sure infrastucture ,as you said is the key. Living in a spread out city with a crappy public transport system is a sure way to make lives miserable
oliver
oliver
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15 Aug 2010 6:15pm
From now on, when I will read Jappie's and Cisco's posts, I'm going to hear them in my mind using that whining Sth African nasal accent they all seem to have. LOL

Am I racist?
NotWal
NotWal
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15 Aug 2010 9:55pm
oliver said...

From now on, when I will read Jappie's and Cisco's posts, I'm going to hear them in my mind using that whining Sth African nasal accent they all seem to have. LOL

Am I racist?


I wouldn't characterise a Southern White African accent like that. There are two of them. The Afrikaner and African English. They are quite different. Neither is whiny or nasal. There is a common Australian accent that sounds like that but you must know that.

Are you racist? Idk - insufficient information.

Is Cisco African? Maybe I should ask him. Does it matter? You're not a kaffer are you Oliver?














saltiest1
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16 Aug 2010 12:14am
what the????
saltiest1
saltiest1
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16 Aug 2010 12:15am
oliver said...

From now on, when I will read Jappie's and Cisco's posts, I'm going to hear them in my mind using that whining Sth African nasal accent they all seem to have. LOL

Am I racist?






"im not racist..... i hate everbody."
saltiest1
saltiest1
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16 Aug 2010 12:22am
japie said...
And, Saltiest, in that system there will be no Barbie in Fairytopia. Your average nine year old daughter will likely be studying calculus and playing a musical instrument in concerts when she is not with her family and friends. She will not be subject to the eternal mindless claptrap that is used to dumb our kids down and keep them on the wheel and as far away from possible to their true potential.






so you are saying that kids wont be kids anymore, but straight into adulthood???
they wont have the joy of happiness from just being kids????
stuff that !!!! id rather not have a child if it cant be one.
sad sad stuff mate. the futrure looks even worse now.
cisco
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16 Aug 2010 12:53am
oliver said...

From now on, when I will read Jappie's and Cisco's posts, I'm going to hear them in my mind using that whining Sth African nasal accent they all seem to have. LOL

Am I racist?


Yuo be kefful what yuo sayn' there kaffir!!!

japie
japie
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16 Aug 2010 10:08am
^^Ja, pasop voor ek jour oor die kop slaan tot jy plat voette kry!
cisco
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16 Aug 2010 12:22pm
^^^^You got me on that one japie. Not a klew wot you sayin.
oliver
oliver
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16 Aug 2010 12:12pm
LOL, reminds me of my favourite band interview with my favourite SA band

evlPanda
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16 Aug 2010 3:29pm
Another piece to the puzzle:

If people didn't have children to raise they'd probably have enough money to be able to look after themselves until death, or pay someone to help them if they needed it. i.e. they'd be helping the economy.

To wit: these bills and one income are killing me.
Haircut
Haircut
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16 Aug 2010 6:47pm

according to history, another world war should fix everything
SandS
SandS
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16 Aug 2010 7:58pm
yep, no matter what is said here , we will get what we deserve. [ or our children will !!]
saltiest1
saltiest1
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16 Aug 2010 10:36pm
oliver said...

LOL, reminds me of my favourite band interview with my favourite SA band






so thats what japie looks like!

saltiest1
saltiest1
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16 Aug 2010 10:38pm
cisco said...

^^^^You got me on that one japie. Not a klew wot you sayin.


he says watch out or ill knock you on the head......... , or something to that effect. nice.
getfunky
getfunky
WA
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17 Aug 2010 11:23am
saltiest1 said...

cisco said...

^^^^You got me on that one japie. Not a klew wot you sayin.


he says watch out or ill knock you on the head......... , or something to that effect. nice.


Either that or someone swapped a non-qwerty keyboard into his office when he wasn't lookin.
japie
japie
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17 Aug 2010 1:23pm
^^^ It is what my Afrikaans teacher used to threaten me with when trying to teach me to learn the language. If you do not pass it in year 12 in South Africa you don't get to go to uni! Really useful language, like amazonian indian!

And it means watch out or I'll hit you over the head until you get flat feet.
cisco
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17 Aug 2010 2:34pm
japie said...
And it means watch out or I'll hit you over the head until you get flat feet.


Classic!!!

Sort of like "Throw Mama out the window a kiss."

Has anybody read Tom Sharpe's books "Riotous Assembly" and "Indecent Exposure"?? Hilariously funny and wickedly satirical looks at "aparthied SA".

They didn't like him for it so they deported him to England where he lectured at university on English literature as well as writing about a dozen more books in which he really took the mickey out different facets of the pommie experience.

Great books for learning some of the complexities of English expression and getting a huge laugh at the same time.

cranky
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17 Aug 2010 12:43pm
evlPanda said...

Another piece to the puzzle:

If people didn't have children to raise they'd probably have enough money to be able to look after themselves until death, or pay someone to help them if they needed it. i.e. they'd be helping the economy.

To wit: these bills and one income are killing me.


If people didn't have children there wouldn't be anyone to pay to help them, just a thought
cisco
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17 Aug 2010 2:51pm
cranky said...

If people didn't have children there wouldn't be anyone to pay to help them, just a thought



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