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evlPanda
evlPanda
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NSW, 9207 posts
20 Nov 2013 6:54pm
briann8300 said..
...when we were young...


I have a lot of vague, blurry memories involving a lot of vomiting. From about 15 onwards.
I don't think our generations were any different. I even suspect we were worse.
Dawn Patrol
Dawn Patrol
WA
1991 posts
WA, 1991 posts
20 Nov 2013 4:56pm
Perhaps a slightly more disturbing stat is that for the 15-24 yr old age group for males, suicide accounts for 27 % of deaths. Over 1/4. (This is 20 % of deaths for females in the same age group). (2008 stats).
Bone74
Bone74
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20 Nov 2013 5:07pm




NotWal
NotWal
QLD
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QLD, 7436 posts
20 Nov 2013 10:21pm
Dawn Patrol said..

Perhaps a slightly more disturbing stat is that for the 15-24 yr old age group for males, suicide accounts for 27 % of deaths. Over 1/4. (This is 20 % of deaths for females in the same age group). (2008 stats).


Bloody hell! If getting blotto is an alternative to topping yourself then .... hmmmm.
deXtrous
deXtrous
NSW
451 posts
NSW, 451 posts
21 Nov 2013 12:49am
Lets see.. Why do young people drink?
Because young people party.

Why do young people party?

Because it's a break from the cycle of life.

I guess it goes back to the saying, 'You wouldn't need a holiday if you didn't have anything to run away from'.


The problem isn't kids or our laws (yeah right war on drugs was a huge success), it's an escape from a socially and economically stressful and burdensome existence.


Fix that one, you f$%#n knobs.

SailCoothara
SailCoothara
VIC
137 posts
VIC, 137 posts
21 Nov 2013 1:08am
WA71 said..

NotWal said..

oz surf said..


WA71 said..

Ban it



Great idea,lets ruin for everyone who can and does drink responsibly



I wouldn't mind personally if it was banned. It's just alcohol. I don't really need it.

Of course there would be an outcry "You're infringing my rights" and "Prohibition doesn't work" and there is an element of truth to both, but you obviously have to be careless of the lives of others to get on that bandwagon so one must ask whether your rights should be respected. However you'd never get a majority of politicians behind banning because every selfish s**t has a vote. Maybe there could be an acceptable middle ground like limiting alcoholic content? or raising the drinking age?

I guess a mass education campaign like the occasional road toll mitigation campaign would be palatable and not totally ineffective.





Personally I think the drinking age should be raised to 21. To get your drivers licence at 17 then legal at 18 to drink really is stupid.




The point is that the 1 in 8 that die are those that will drink themselves into the ground regardless of whether it's legal or not. The solution is not to run around like the concerned mother's association and regulate everything to within an inch of its existence. You need to educate us and introduce an understanding of alcohol (and drugs etc.) at the earliest appropriate age.

My school did it very well and brought in an external bloke who discussed methods of looking after those who've taken it too far (recovery positions and signs of alcohol poisoning) and knowing when and how to react in the **** situations.They realised that telling us "alcohol is bad" and "Drugs are evil" won't make a bloody difference when we're at the Gold Coast for schoolies surrounded by friends passing out and people trying to start you.

That'd be great hey?
"Oh, Timmy downed 24 shots of tequila and is face down in his own vomit. Silly Timmy, don't you know its illegal to drink when you're 17!?"
"****, now what do I do".

Education is how you save lives, not by simply putting your foot down and saying no. I still cannot believe that we haven't learnt this lesson yet....
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
20 Nov 2013 11:04pm
people just use that excuse to get of with a lighter penalty Just like if you has sex with a fat chick or a tard burgler and your mates find out next day.1!

Least 1 in 8 aren't cause by fully automatic firearms !
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
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QLD, 6158 posts
21 Nov 2013 9:40am
busterwa said..

people just use that excuse to get of with a lighter penalty Just like if you has sex with a fat chick or a tard burgler and your mates find out next day.1!

Least 1 in 8 aren't cause by fully automatic firearms !


WTF is a tard burgler??
stuk
stuk
NSW
894 posts
NSW, 894 posts
21 Nov 2013 10:46am
myusernam said..

busterwa said..

people just use that excuse to get of with a lighter penalty Just like if you has sex with a fat chick or a tard burgler and your mates find out next day.1!

Least 1 in 8 aren't cause by fully automatic firearms !


WTF is a tard burgler??


Someone who breaks into the Tardis...don't tell the Doctor
dmitri
dmitri
VIC
1040 posts
VIC, 1040 posts
21 Nov 2013 11:05am
what about taxing at shock-horror rate spirits (incl. premixed) and wines with total ban on chardonnay (since it brings out vulgarity
and sinister tendencies in the people who drink it ).

but in the meantime liberating beer. no restrictions. beer sold at supermarkets, servos, maccas, vending machines etc
and no subject to tax
pueter66
pueter66
QLD
205 posts
QLD, 205 posts
21 Nov 2013 12:52pm
worrier said..

Some guru on abc radio today also said that recent studies show That 30% of youth debt is also directly attributed to alcohol as well, she was talking car crashes, hospital treatment etc
W


Thats strange most of my alcohol debt is from putting up with youths
ggh
ggh
VIC
190 posts
ggh ggh
VIC, 190 posts
21 Nov 2013 10:05pm
what else are they going to die of certainly not old age .
ikw777
ikw777
QLD
2995 posts
QLD, 2995 posts
21 Nov 2013 9:13pm
My dad was a career, hardcore, alcoholic, who started at 15, and successfully killed himself at 51, by drinking beer. I never drank as a youngster and hardly drink now I am nearly the same age as him when he died. It's amazing what a good example can do for you!

Seriously kids, booze can easilly **** you up and those around you. Be suspicious. Don't abuse it. Think for yourselves.
Luma
Luma
WA
169 posts
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
22 Nov 2013 1:13am
ggh said..

what else are they going to die of certainly not old age .


The 1, 4, 5, 40, 50 plan of life.

Insurance companies, banks, superannuation companies and the government have been working their strategy off this statistic forever.

Out of every 100 persons born on any date, 65 years later, 1 is rich, 4 are independent, 5 are still working, 40 are dead and 50 are dead broke.

Like it or not, them are the stats. Check it out on the ABS site and see if I am wrong.

So the question you need to ask yourself is "Where do I plan to be at age 65??"

I am 63 and I am one of the 4.

Dig your well before you get thirsty.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
22 Nov 2013 12:36pm
^ More like 90 are dead broke.
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