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evlPanda
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20 Nov 2013 11:45am
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... Alcohol.


One in eight deaths of Australians aged under 25 is now related to alcohol consumption, a report has revealed.

The Australian National Council on Drugs report (ANCD) also found 60 per cent of all police call outs - up to 90 per cent at night - are alcohol-related.

www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-20/alcohol-to-blame-for-one-in-eight-deaths---report/5102594



WA71
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20 Nov 2013 8:48am
Ban it
Gizmo
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20 Nov 2013 11:30am
Kids are staying at home too long these days is the main problem, they have a surplus of disposable income..... Kids used to move out of home MUCH earlier years ago, meaning they had less disposable income after paying rent / bills etc... (so less to spend on alcohol) .
westozwind
westozwind
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20 Nov 2013 9:36am
Bit like saying a large % of traffic accidents are attributable to speed. If cars did not move, then the accident rate would decrease dramatically.
Where do I get on board to derive funding for such studies?
You can make stats say anything you want if you try hard enough.
Teenagers take risks with or without alcohol. Most of them survive, but a small percentage (tragically) don't.
Been happening for centuries.
harry potter
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20 Nov 2013 12:41pm
Our country has a drinking culture which would be fine.....the only problem is that a large percentage cannot handle their alcohol......

Personally I can drink and drink and drink I will fall asleep before I get stupid.

If you drive through the Melbourne CBD on a Friday or Saturday night you will be shocked at the number of kids ( say under 25 ) throwing up, passed out on the footpath or screaming and yelling abuse, walking on the road or fighting.

stamp
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20 Nov 2013 11:43am
Gizmo said..

Kids are staying at home too long these days is the main problem, they have a surplus of disposable income..... Kids used to move out of home MUCH earlier years ago, meaning they had less disposable income after paying rent / bills etc... (so less to spend on alcohol) .


crap. i always found a way to buy grog & smokes as first priority, even living out of home as a 1st year apprentice. bills, rent, food etc could wait
Poida
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20 Nov 2013 9:51am
is two bottles of spirits too much for a 5 day leavers event? thats what the leavers wanted. the adults said one. theres going to be an 18 year old with them from school. the leavers reckon they cant stop you from buying alcohol at leavers if you are 18. most of them are 17 though.

flame suit on
theDoctor
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20 Nov 2013 12:54pm


maybe because when we were younger, there was usually only a couple of people maggotedly stupid drunk (usually me) at the party...

now the reason to party is to get stupidly maggotedly drunk...
Woodo
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20 Nov 2013 11:35am
Poida said..

is two bottles of spirits too much for a 5 day leavers event? thats what the leavers wanted. the adults said one. theres going to be an 18 year old with them from school. the leavers reckon they cant stop you from buying alcohol at leavers if you are 18. most of them are 17 though.

flame suit on


Be lucky if there's any left after the second night.
Tux
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20 Nov 2013 2:43pm
You can't ban it...young people need to be better educated and that education needs to start and finish with mum and dad...kids with responsible attitudes toward alcohol get it from the parents...take a look at a lot of European countries as examples (not russia)
Woodo
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20 Nov 2013 12:01pm
If I had kids I'd prefer them getting on the p!ss instead of sucking on or whacking up meth...
stuk
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20 Nov 2013 3:05pm
Seems a big part is the type of alcohol they drink. Recently hosted my daughters 18th birthday party at our home. Rules were they had to stay the night and they all brought tents and when they arrived we confiscated their car keys. But back on point, not one of them brought beer or even wine to drink, it was all either bottles of spirits or premix spirits.
WA71
WA71
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20 Nov 2013 12:09pm
stuk said..

Seems a big part is the type of alcohol they drink. Recently hosted my daughters 18th birthday party at our home. Rules were they had to stay the night and they all brought tents and when they arrived we confiscated their car keys. But back on point, not one of them brought beer or even wine to drink, it was all either bottles of spirits or premix spirits.


Less hangover I think.
Tux
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20 Nov 2013 3:09pm
stuk said..

Seems a big part is the type of alcohol they drink. Recently hosted my daughters 18th birthday party at our home. Rules were they had to stay the night and they all brought tents and when they arrived we confiscated their car keys. But back on point, not one of them brought beer or even wine to drink, it was all either bottles of spirits or premix spirits.


Good point bro...spirits are some high octane **** when your 17 or 18..mix 'em with energy drinks and its even worse
felixdcat
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20 Nov 2013 12:38pm
WA71 said..

Ban it


Ban what????? Young peeps??? death????
WA71
WA71
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20 Nov 2013 12:40pm
felixdcat said..

WA71 said..

Ban it


Ban what????? Young peeps??? death????


Dont start with me felix
evlPanda
evlPanda
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20 Nov 2013 3:51pm
harry potter said..
If you drive through the Melbourne CBD on a Friday or Saturday night you will be shocked at the number of kids ( say under 25 ) throwing up, passed out on the footpath or screaming and yelling abuse, walking on the road or fighting.


Exactly. It's binge binge binge. Alcohol does cause damage. People seem to think it must be OK if I can buy it over a bar and it tastes like a lolly. I'm not injecting it, so it's OK.


One in eight deaths of Australians aged under 25 is now related to alcohol consumption, a report has revealed.
The Australian National Council on Drugs report (ANCD) also found 60 per cent of all police call outs, up to 90 per cent at night, are alcohol-related.


For some reason people read that and think "meh."
Try this:


One in eight deaths of Australians aged under 25 is now related to drug use, a report has revealed.
The Australian National Council on Drugs report (ANCD) also found 60 per cent of all police call outs, up to 90 per cent at night, are drug-related.


What's the difference? There isn't any.

People say "meh" because they drink themselves.

oz surf
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20 Nov 2013 12:57pm
WA71 said..

Ban it


Great idea,lets ruin for everyone who can and does drink responsibly
worrier
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20 Nov 2013 1:36pm
Some guru on abc radio today also said that recent studies show That 30% of youth debt is also directly attributed to alcohol as well, she was talking car crashes, hospital treatment etc
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WA71
WA71
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20 Nov 2013 1:40pm
oz surf said..

WA71 said..

Ban it


Great idea,lets ruin for everyone who can and does drink responsibly


Get a life, it was a joke idiot
oz surf
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20 Nov 2013 1:53pm
WA71 said..

oz surf said..

WA71 said..

Ban it


Great idea,lets ruin for everyone who can and does drink responsibly


Get a life, it was a joke idiot


You should have a few beers and lighten up a little.
WA71
WA71
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20 Nov 2013 1:59pm
oz surf said..

WA71 said..

oz surf said..

WA71 said..

Ban it


Great idea,lets ruin for everyone who can and does drink responsibly


Get a life, it was a joke idiot


You should have a few beers and lighten up a little.


You,re village called, they want their idiot back
theDoctor
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20 Nov 2013 5:09pm


you answered the call doggie

my guess is it was meant for you....
oz surf
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20 Nov 2013 2:18pm
theDoctor said..



you answered the call doggie

my guess is it was meant for you....


WA71
WA71
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20 Nov 2013 2:18pm
theDoctor said..



you answered the call doggie

my guess is it was meant for you....


What eva, geez.... cant even take a joke, the guy is a fool.
felixdcat
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20 Nov 2013 2:22pm
WA71 said..

felixdcat said..

WA71 said..

Ban it


Ban what????? Young peeps??? death????


Dont start with me felix


you started it
WA71
WA71
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20 Nov 2013 2:27pm
felixdcat said..

WA71 said..

felixdcat said..

WA71 said..

Ban it


Ban what????? Young peeps??? death????


Dont start with me felix


you started it


Started what?? Ban every thing ya farking wankers
NotWal
NotWal
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20 Nov 2013 4:45pm
oz surf said..


WA71 said..

Ban it



Great idea,lets ruin for everyone who can and does drink responsibly



I wouldn't mind personally if it was banned. It's just alcohol. I don't really need it.

Of course there would be an outcry "You're infringing my rights" and "Prohibition doesn't work" and there is an element of truth to both, but you obviously have to be careless of the lives of others to get on that bandwagon so one must ask whether your rights should be respected. However you'd never get a majority of politicians behind banning because every selfish s**t has a vote. Maybe there could be an acceptable middle ground like limiting alcoholic content? or raising the drinking age?

I guess a mass education campaign like the occasional road toll mitigation campaign would be palatable and not totally ineffective.



WA71
WA71
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20 Nov 2013 2:53pm
NotWal said..

oz surf said..


WA71 said..

Ban it



Great idea,lets ruin for everyone who can and does drink responsibly



I wouldn't mind personally if it was banned. It's just alcohol. I don't really need it.

Of course there would be an outcry "You're infringing my rights" and "Prohibition doesn't work" and there is an element of truth to both, but you obviously have to be careless of the lives of others to get on that bandwagon so one must ask whether your rights should be respected. However you'd never get a majority of politicians behind banning because every selfish s**t has a vote. Maybe there could be an acceptable middle ground like limiting alcoholic content? or raising the drinking age?

I guess a mass education campaign like the occasional road toll mitigation campaign would be palatable and not totally ineffective.





Personally I think the drinking age should be raised to 21. To get your drivers licence at 17 then legal at 18 to drink really is stupid.

Sailhack
Sailhack
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20 Nov 2013 6:23pm
Nearly 5:30pm - beer'o'clock!
briann8300
briann8300
NSW
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20 Nov 2013 6:38pm
Not trying to make a sweeping statement but when we were young and being tear aways on too much beer the big No15 boot of some fat arse police sergeant was roofed into our backside if we stepped out of line...we leant to drink 'responsibly' watching our parents..occasional ****-faced sessions were tolerated as long as they were fairly spaced out....kids on high octane drinks get pissed too quickly...
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