Wwwwww, waterboy

Move to NSW for, lets say 4 weeks... then realize the goodness that is WA when it comes to wind.

Home sick... you bet !

jh2703 said...

Waterboy, I've been on holidays in WA for the past 11 days....It's been nothing short of awesome. So far we've only had 2 days where we could not sail....Needed the rest anyway. You should try living on the east coast, you'd return back to WA real quick.
Come up to Geraldton...It's been a blast.

Do you believe in the weather man?
So why would you believe in the Seabreeze forecast so much?

It gets everyone so excited and then just lets you down.

Dont get me wrong, I love WA and have a great season, just compared to my observations on every other week for the last couple of years (yes gross over exageration for poetic license) this week's seabreeze forecasts for perth (not gero) have been pretty really off the mark.

(And glad you are loving your time in Gero - we are truly blessed to have such great locations on our coast.

theWaterBoy said...

I have to say that , in my personal opinion, i think this has been the worst week I have ever seen for Seabreeze's perth wind forecast.

be it the Doppler effect of some other strange phenomenon, those promised green arrows are like chameleons - changing the yellow as the forecast greens approach.

it's that pesky coriolis effect again

Well, at least its back on today!!

i used other sites and the but unfortunatly the maps were just as in accurate,
i believe there is sites used by the americas cup people but you have to pay and im pretty sure the accuracy is just as eccentric.
mabe its not the site its just a bad year for wind

Everybody is entitled to a 100% refund.

It's true, no weather service is perfect, and one that claims to be is ignoring nature.

It's kind of like when you tell your wife you won't be windsurfing on her birthday , but then it get's windy on the day and you need to adapt. ... did this make your forecast of the days activities wrong, or has the situation changed?

When I started the site 12 years ago, there was no "internet", and it was built out of frustration of having nothing, and driving to the beach all the time. The forecasts (3 per day, numerous parts of the country, 7 days out ) are pretty close, most of the time.

Hope you find this article interesting, it shows the history of weather forecasting by humans...

www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Miscellaneous/A-history-of-weather-discovery_1216853.aspx

Oh, and here's a nifty article to give insights into the forecast, and why it might not be perfect. Click on the forecast, and it takes you to the Synoptics..

This article gives a primer for Synoptics

www.seabreeze.com.au/info/wind.asp

laurie said...

Leech said...

The more wind you see on the forecast, the more often you come back to try to understand why there isn't really wind and the more you look at the advertising.

Whoa .. that's a pretty dark outlook, when 98% of the site screen space is non-advertising related.

Some guys even have a conspiracy theory going that the green arrows are posted to keep people "coming back". What they haven't thought about is all the fishermen/boaters who visit the site. For every "windy day", there's an opposite side who want it "non-windy"....

Sheesh...

You lost or sumfink

laurie said...

LOL. Stolen from one of your links regarding ^

There's a famous (longwinded) quote from a Bob Ryan - a meteorologist who was getting bagged out by the media at the time.

In 1982 he wrote "Imagine a rotating sphere that is 12,800 kilometers in diameter, has a bumpy surface, is surrounded by a 40-kilometer-deep mixture of different gases whose concentrations vary both spatially and over time, and is heated, along with its surrounding gases, by a nuclear reactor 150 million kilometers away. Imagine also that this sphere is revolving around the nuclear reactor and that some locations are heated more during one part of the revolution and other locations are heated during another part of the revolution. And imagine that this mixture of gases continually receives inputs from the surface below, generally calmly but sometimes through violent and highly localized injections. Then, imagine that after watching the gaseous mixture, you are expected to predict its state at one location on the sphere one, two, or more days into the future. This is essentially the task encountered day by day by a weather forecaster."

Or, as we like to say, "The forecast was right, it's the weather that got it wrong!"

theWaterBoy's got a point;

why has the 7 day forecast been showing green arrows for most of summer, even on 37+ degree days? We all know from experience that if there's a trough, it's hot with no sea breeze.

Are the forecasters just having a bet each way?

Leech said...
It's no wonder you generate green arrows to keep up the traffic (*kidding*)

You'll see I've rustled some up for you for the 5-7 day outlooks

Gratitude +1

I love seabreeze.
I remember the days when windsurfers would sit at the beach waiting for the seabreeze to come in. Sometimes it never did. Now we can plan our day knowing the approximate time the breeze is expected to be sailable and wait at home getting useful things done until the wind reaches an appropriate strength at our fave location, then hop in the car and go.

...and lets face it, even if there are only red arrows, with windsurfers being the eternal optimists they are, we keep coming back to check the graphs in the hope that things improve.

May still happen..

Seeing as I started this thread I think I should set the record straight a little.

Firstly, we all have bad weeks - the subject heading was really to reflect my observation that Seabreeze forecast is usually really - just the time that I started the thread I found the week bizarre in that each day started out with strong greens and ended up in weak yellows... it was bad in comparison to the good forecasts normally.

Secondly, I have to confess that I hate the site - which is why I feel obliged to check the forecast / wind observations and windsurfing forums every 15 minutes

Thirdly, in my opinion the advertising is 1) subtle 2) sparce and 3) laurie would be well within his rights and commecially it would make sense to thread the forums with advertising like many other comparable forums - realsurf comes to mind.

Finally, if the site did disapear I may get a part of my life back...

Keep up the great work....



PS. For clarification any negative comments above are tongue in cheek