Tri wave will have more control in stronger winds. Stubby even though same volume will sail/ feel like a bigger board in strong winds

Depends what you want...pure control, speed.
At 62 kg., a 65 liter board is recommended for 25+.
You can uphaul a 75 liter board, so it's considered big.

That's pretty windy - 70L FSW for you in 25kn
Then you'll have some control :)

Bennn said..
Hi guys,
I am 62 kg and struggle to find a board for strong wind (25+kts). I generally sail in an inlet and ride a Falcon 86l on flat water (perfect) and a Kode 86 when it get choppy, but that still feel too big in the chop. I now have the opportunity to buy either a Fanatic tri wave 76l or a Stubby 77, thinking that reducing volume might help in rough water. Has anyone experience these boards and could comment if they might be suitable to ride in non wave, strong wind choppy inlet type condition and which one would suit best? Even any advice on choice for non wave riding small volume board for small people would be appreciated. The options appear limited...cheers

Hi, I am close in weight (70 Kg) and my smallest board is a Kode FSW 81, it helps a lot in 4.2 conditions as a step down from my RRD FSW 90. I would stay away from the Fanatic Stubby unless maybe if it is a 2020. The large tail and squared outline of the previous model years does not sit well with light weights. I spent a day on a 85 2018 trying to decide on a new board and it felt like a barge. The stubby tail was reduced in 2020 but still we need less power than big guys!

If I were you I would consider the new RRD FSW 78, 224x56, or an equivalent 75-80 board. RRDs are just lovely easy boards and the new Y26 look fantastic. I am considering getting a 84 to take the place of the 90 and 81!

equipment.robertoriccidesigns.com/products/freestyle-wave-y26/

Mark _australia said..
That's pretty windy - 70L FSW for you in 25kn
Then you'll have some control :)

That would be ideal. Can you think of any brand/year that produced one? I try to avoid going down the custom board road...

Bennn said..

Mark _australia said..
That's pretty windy - 70L FSW for you in 25kn
Then you'll have some control :)

That would be ideal. Can you think of any brand/year that produced one? I try to avoid going down the custom board road...

Old RRD
there was always about a 77L ish
I think JP for a while and Tabou 3S way back

Sea Lotus said..
Unfortunately most brands don't have 75lt or smaller fsw boards.
It would olso be nice to know which wave boards are more fsw like, early planing, fast and controlled.

Simmer Quantum is available as a 75L and they will do smaller I believe. The designer is on the small side and develops their boards around very real-world conditions.

The Quantum is considered their windswell board and is designed to be ridden a bit big. I own an 85L V3 (2017?) Which at my 86-88kg plus quite a lot of neoprene is my smallest board. I ride it down to 3.7m in +40kts no problem.
Its a proper waveboard but it definitely has some FSW DNA in there and it planes through gybes beautifully.

Mark _australia said..

Bennn said..

Mark _australia said..
That's pretty windy - 70L FSW for you in 25kn
Then you'll have some control :)

That would be ideal. Can you think of any brand/year that produced one? I try to avoid going down the custom board road...

Old RRD
there was always about a 77L ish
I think JP for a while and Tabou 3S way back

As above, one of the older narrow tail sub 80L fsw with a small wave fin works well in high wind rough water, non wave conditions. They plane up well and have a good turn of speed. If your going down from a slalom board then you may find a wave board a little dull.

I am about 20kg heavier so may be totally of the mark for a lightweight like yourself. If you're in Sydney id be happy to lend you my seldom used, old, JP FSW 78 to try.

So, you guys think the designer is key?
I think, LUCK getting to the best prototype leading to a good shape.
Of course, all board designers have made both good and bad boards.

Gestalt said..

duzzi said..

Bennn said..
Hi guys,
I am 62 kg and struggle to find a board for strong wind (25+kts). I generally sail in an inlet and ride a Falcon 86l on flat water (perfect) and a Kode 86 when it get choppy, but that still feel too big in the chop. I now have the opportunity to buy either a Fanatic tri wave 76l or a Stubby 77, thinking that reducing volume might help in rough water. Has anyone experience these boards and could comment if they might be suitable to ride in non wave, strong wind choppy inlet type condition and which one would suit best? Even any advice on choice for non wave riding small volume board for small people would be appreciated. The options appear limited...cheers

Hi, I am close in weight (70 Kg) and my smallest board is a Kode FSW 81, it helps a lot in 4.2 conditions as a step down from my RRD FSW 90. I would stay away from the Fanatic Stubby unless maybe if it is a 2020. The large tail and squared outline of the previous model years does not sit well with light weights. I spent a day on a 85 2018 trying to decide on a new board and it felt like a barge. The stubby tail was reduced in 2020 but still we need less power than big guys!

If I were you I would consider the new RRD FSW 78, 224x56, or an equivalent 75-80 board. RRDs are just lovely easy boards and the new Y26 look fantastic. I am considering getting a 84 to take the place of the 90 and 81!

equipment.robertoriccidesigns.com/products/freestyle-wave-y26/

Not sure if you knew but the 77 and 88 lt stubby's were designed by a 72kg rider.

I can only talk about my experience, and what works for a Pro does not necessarily work for a normal sailor. But I think we are talking about two different boards. As I mentioned I was talking about the FSW 85.

Anyway, it is a moot issue: Fanatic has pretty much abandoned the stubby "idea". The FSW stubbies were "normalized" in 2020, and the stubby waves have completely disappeared from the 2021 line up ...

Plenty other options for Benn: the JP FSW 79, Goya Custom 3 75 or 81, Starboard UltraKode 78, RRD FSW 78 and Cult 74, etc ...

But back to subject.
62 kg rider needs around 65 liters for high wind control.
Sure, you can fudge higher....but you're fudging.

asturcon said..
The Simmer Quantum is designed by a swedish Professor (Ola Helenius) of mathematics at the technical highscool in gothenburg/Sweden. I?m sure he knows exactly what he is doing, a lot of mechanical thinking about flow, waves etc.

If you want a window into that particular designer's thought process:
www.sailboardsforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=116

The OP isn't very descriptive about what "choppy" means. It could be everything from decently formed windswell like the Gorge (a river in Oregon) which is quite fun on an efficient waveboard to nasty hip high voodoo chop where all you really want is a smooth ride but no real desire to turn on anything.

Narrow tails with single fins or at most small thrusters and a bunch of Vee seem to be what is called for in the second example.

duzzi said..

Gestalt said..

duzzi said..

Bennn said..
Hi guys,
I am 62 kg and struggle to find a board for strong wind (25+kts). I generally sail in an inlet and ride a Falcon 86l on flat water (perfect) and a Kode 86 when it get choppy, but that still feel too big in the chop. I now have the opportunity to buy either a Fanatic tri wave 76l or a Stubby 77, thinking that reducing volume might help in rough water. Has anyone experience these boards and could comment if they might be suitable to ride in non wave, strong wind choppy inlet type condition and which one would suit best? Even any advice on choice for non wave riding small volume board for small people would be appreciated. The options appear limited...cheers

Hi, I am close in weight (70 Kg) and my smallest board is a Kode FSW 81, it helps a lot in 4.2 conditions as a step down from my RRD FSW 90. I would stay away from the Fanatic Stubby unless maybe if it is a 2020. The large tail and squared outline of the previous model years does not sit well with light weights. I spent a day on a 85 2018 trying to decide on a new board and it felt like a barge. The stubby tail was reduced in 2020 but still we need less power than big guys!

If I were you I would consider the new RRD FSW 78, 224x56, or an equivalent 75-80 board. RRDs are just lovely easy boards and the new Y26 look fantastic. I am considering getting a 84 to take the place of the 90 and 81!

equipment.robertoriccidesigns.com/products/freestyle-wave-y26/

Not sure if you knew but the 77 and 88 lt stubby's were designed by a 72kg rider.

I can only talk about my experience, and what works for a Pro does not necessarily work for a normal sailor. But I think we are talking about two different boards. As I mentioned I was talking about the FSW 85.

Anyway, it is a moot issue: Fanatic has pretty much abandoned the stubby "idea". The FSW stubbies were "normalized" in 2020, and the stubby waves have completely disappeared from the 2021 line up ...

Plenty other options for Benn: the JP FSW 79, Goya Custom 3 75 or 81, Starboard UltraKode 78, RRD FSW 78 and Cult 74, etc ...

I think you are right. I was talking about the stubby te. A lightweight mate rips on his for high wind bump and jump. His lightwind board was the 95lt freewave.

I'm 79 kgs, and use 78 liters for high wind, 85 for medium wind, 102 for average wind, and 111 for light wind.

My 4/3 wetsuit adds 9 lbs when it gets fully wet.