Sail in a rare NorEaster GoPro

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Walt
Walt
264 posts
264 posts
30 Mar 2012 2:58pm
A rare NorEaster came to play.
Not many of us out that day but it was nice to be on the water.
I haven't mastered the gybe while still on the plane, maybe one day.
Hope you enjoy the footage.

Thanks
Kind Regards
Walt
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
30 Mar 2012 7:39pm
Great vid and tune to accompany it.
Itch
Itch
VIC
107 posts
VIC, 107 posts
30 Mar 2012 9:56pm
Good job Walt
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
NSW, 1510 posts
30 Mar 2012 10:07pm
Nice vid Walt - I miss sailing

When did that caterpillar start hitching a ride on your top lip?
shear tip
shear tip
NSW
1125 posts
NSW, 1125 posts
30 Mar 2012 10:17pm
Nice one walt!
Walt
Walt
264 posts
264 posts
30 Mar 2012 7:58pm
Hey Guys,

Thanks for your comments.
Well DavMen the mo helps with the aerodynamics.

My dear wife laughs at me every morning with my mo I am glad she can start her day on a happy note.

But really It reminds me of my father who always had a mo so it connects me to my dad and bring's back those great father son memories.

Thanks
Kind regards
Walt
Ads72
Ads72
NSW
362 posts
NSW, 362 posts
31 Mar 2012 10:15am
Nice vid
Willy Sailor
Willy Sailor
242 posts
242 posts
31 Mar 2012 4:39pm
sorry for the noob question

Why at the start when ur rigging the sail , you balance it on the boom (0.37)

how did you catch up too your friend if you both have the same sail

is that due to the experience and sheeting in more or the board ?
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
1 Apr 2012 2:44am
Nice video..Tabou Rocket..? What size? I've got a KA Concept 6.6m the Kaos look nice..
Walt
Walt
264 posts
264 posts
1 Apr 2012 4:10pm
billyboy402 said...

sorry for the noob question

Why at the start when ur rigging the sail , you balance it on the boom (0.37)

how did you catch up too your friend if you both have the same sail

is that due to the experience and sheeting in more or the board ?


Hey billyboy402,

To answer your queries the first is at the .37sec mark Everyone has a different method of rigging.


I hope my take on why wont take to long. Work with me.

The reason why I rock the sail on the boom is to see how the leech or the top portion of the sail looks in relation to the downhaul pressure. The more downhaul pressure the floppy the sail is at the leech this might be good for strong wind say 20+knots or less downhaul fuller top profile to hold the wind longer in the lighter conditions
I tend to judge that part of my sail by eye and not the recommended rigging numbers on the sail, so rocking the sail on the boom show the leech looseness or full profile for the condition I will be sailing in.

The other query, why I caught up to the other guy well I would like to say that I am the better sailor but we are of the same intermediate level.
There are many possibilities why I caught up. Some of them which I think are, although the sails are the same and the boards are the same make Tabou Rocket the leading one is 118 litre and the camera is 125 litre I tried the 118 which is narrower then the 125 and I could not get the same feeling in the feet transferred to the board meaning I could ride the fin better in the 125 and more board to work with in the back this could be one reason.

The other part could of been the rigging of the sail. When we rigged them I tend to tighten the bottom three battens semi tight to try and create a cupping effect similar to a cammed sail and the other sailor being Gustee rigged the bottom three batten's loose so more of a flat profile in the bottom of the sail its a new sail for him so it might take a few rigging times for him to sort the profile out for the conditions. So the batten shape could be the other reason holding the draft in the sail longer.

The final one which might contribute to the acceleration could be the placement of the harness lines. With the wind being average strength I think it was on that day about 15-18 knots the harness lines where set further back on the boom, this will allow the wind to capture your full face of the sail better therefore driving the sail forward quicker and then as you are planeing us you body to shift your weight forward and back to adjust for the gusts. So with the harness line set back your in put or technic is important and must always be ready with the wind gusts if you do not pay attention to the gust you could end up with a spectacular catapult so be confident with the harness placement and use your body weight in this instant.

So billyboy402 I hope this helped with your queries this shows some points in the theory of how the sail and board work in those conditions.

I am sure some of the more accomplished sailor's hear on the forum can maybe add to this theory or correct my style so any other theories can only help and build the perfect sailor type.

To sboardcrazy as you may of read above yes the boards are tabou Rockets, and as you know first hand they are great boards.


Thanks
Kind Regards
Walt

makesurf
makesurf
NSW
248 posts
NSW, 248 posts
7 Apr 2012 5:34pm
Walt said...
maybe add to this theory or correct my style so any other theories can only help

Thanks for the video.
The difference in the speeds probably down to a number of factors, especially the ones you mentioned, volume, etc.
Also you started higher up wind and were reaching more. Once you pick up a gust that gave you the speed to close the gap the movement of the board & sail through the air is going to give you the extra apparent wind.
There was a tiny amount of wave, probably a boat wake that you could also have surfed to get a bit more speed.

One thing I noticed during the tack out from the beach is that you are pushing down on the windward edge of the board. I am no fan of double rear footstraps.

More pressure (especially on the back foot) pulling the ankle up and pushing the toes down would level the board better and help the board to get it planing.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
8 Apr 2012 6:06pm
Good board..
Walt
Walt
264 posts
264 posts
10 Apr 2012 8:55pm
makesurf said....
One thing I noticed during the tack out from the beach is that you are pushing down on the windward edge of the board and pulling the ankle up and pushing the toes down would level the board better and help the board to get it planing.


Yes, looking at it again I do tend to load the fin and the rail digging the heals in on the board before I have enough momentum of the wind to get it going, which stalls the board and points it up wind, quiet frustrating really while other's around me are up and going and I am at least two hundred meters left behind until I get on the plane.
I am correcting that style by rocking the board with the feet to pump it on with the wind sort of like a gondola oar rocking it side to side to get movement.

So thanks for pointing that out.

Kind Regards
walt
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