Desal & Botany Bay

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DavMen
DavMen
NSW
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14 Jan 2009 4:03pm
Interesting Reading

http://www.sydneywater.com.au/MajorProjects/attachments/195.pdf

Seems like the impact on windsurfing may be bigger than we thought!
whenever
whenever
NSW
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14 Jan 2009 5:34pm
Looks like we'll all be sailing at Balmoral!
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
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14 Jan 2009 7:52pm
Doesn't look good. Disappointing as its definately the windiest spot in Sydney
Waiting4wind
Waiting4wind
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14 Jan 2009 9:34pm
There's always the positive side. Pascal did some runs south of the floating pipeline today. Cracked a blistering 40 knots, he said it was super smooth. Will have to give that a run soon.
Mr Milk
Mr Milk
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14 Jan 2009 9:34pm
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shear tip
shear tip
NSW
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14 Jan 2009 10:21pm
FFS. Can someone remind me why we need this?
slalomfreak
slalomfreak
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14 Jan 2009 11:36pm
shear tip said...

FFS. Can someone remind me why we need this?



For the same reason we needed all the toll roads?
Walt
Walt
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15 Jan 2009 6:06am
Hi All,
Hey, Waiting4wind where would that run be south of the pipeline?
If its super smooth during our 25+ NE it sounds great.

timford
timford
NSW
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15 Jan 2009 8:30am
stink! look like WSnS might get a bit of a run on freestyle gear
timford
timford
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15 Jan 2009 8:30am
shear tip said...

FFS. Can someone remind me why we need this?


well said mike!
Waiting4wind
Waiting4wind
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15 Jan 2009 9:14am
Walt said...

Hi All,
Hey, Waiting4wind where would that run be south of the pipeline?
If its super smooth during our 25+ NE it sounds great.




It's the orange snake you can out in the middle of the bay. Probably about 800m south of the runway and about the same from the shore.

....The Desal Plant was another Iiema contribution..
Walt
Walt
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15 Jan 2009 9:19am
Hi

Thanks Waiting4wind,

Yes the orange Iiema snake, anti venom is windsurfing.

So you sail against the snake, I would think it would still be quiet choppy out there.
Still on holidays so have time might try the orange snake.
Kind Regards
Walt
AUS-057
AUS-057
QLD
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15 Jan 2009 11:05am
Ive been out on the leeward side of the snake a several times in the ENE and NE winds around xmas. I was mostly on the formula board doing upwind/downwind laps around the snake.

The snake does smooth out the chop a bit but does not completely eliminate it. Where you might have 30cm confused chop on the windward side of the snake it might be around 10cm and smooth surface on the leeward side of the snake.

At the top of the run it is quite smooth and as you get towards the end of the run the chop is running perpendicular and increasing in size.

Good chance for speed runs in a decent wind.

shear tip
shear tip
NSW
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15 Jan 2009 8:35pm
I've had a few runs on the north side in a southerly. It gets rid of the surface chop, but there's still a smooth swell running underneath. It's like speeding over smooth bumps.
timford
timford
NSW
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20 Jan 2009 5:15pm
dudes in the know....... after sailing yesterday at Kyeemah with the crap in the water, the grass cut so short your gear gets covered in crap (no way around it), no taps, no water, lice, crap on the beach, crap on the water, sports teams on the beach, ferrel F@#K heads period, idiots blocking the ramp, the pending arrival of the barge, no parking, do I need to go on............... is there another spot within reach for NE wind within Sydney area?

Kurnell is just abit much of a hike mid week.
AUS-057
AUS-057
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20 Jan 2009 5:22pm
Flatwater options south of the bridge include

Ramsgate beach (Bit further down the bay)

Also Rose Bay is reported to be ok in a NE. (Just need to dodge boats)




DavMen
DavMen
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20 Jan 2009 9:01pm
timford said...

dudes in the know....... after sailing yesterday at Kyeemah with the crap in the water, the grass cut so short your gear gets covered in crap (no way around it), no taps, no water, lice, crap on the beach, crap on the water, sports teams on the beach, ferrel F@#K heads period, idiots blocking the ramp, the pending arrival of the barge, no parking, do I need to go on............... is there another spot within reach for NE wind within Sydney area?

Kurnell is just abit much of a hike mid week.



Forget Rodd Point for short board options - after a week or two of afternoon sessions when it was blowing 25-30knts at Kyeemagh, lucky to get a flukey 15 - I'm so over that place - gusty, muddy, shifty & unpredictable.

It ain't what it use to be for short boarders anyway - Still a great spot for Wally's though.


sick_em_rex
sick_em_rex
NSW
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20 Jan 2009 10:09pm
I'm picking Ramsgate to be the new Kyeemagh soon. More parking, better rigging area, only downside is not as much flat water like next the runway, but that's only a few well done tacks away...I'm thinking they would be longer runs too heading toward Kurnell...Dave???
Wineman
Wineman
NSW
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20 Jan 2009 10:45pm
What about the beach up at the northern end...

should work in a N/E, upwind of all the work & crap

Might just require a bit of work to get back up there to finish

(up where it says 'South West Hwy')

Jaime
Jaime
NSW
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20 Jan 2009 10:57pm
I sailed Kurnell today, 25+ knots and really steady, great ramps on the outside, clean flat water on the inside and only two other guys out.
No crowds, close rigging to the water, unfortunately 80 km round trip from the cbd.
It certainly beats Kyeemagh, as Tim describes it yesterday.
Oh, and happy birthday to big Jeremy, he came down with his big mate 'dutchie', and some very cute fans/colleagues from the whitehorse.
AUS-057
AUS-057
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20 Jan 2009 10:14pm
Ramsgate has plenty of rigging grass. Just as bumpy as Kurnell in a NE,.
timford
timford
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21 Jan 2009 7:58am
hmmmm yes.............might try Rose Bay and see how it is, i guess the number of boats and sea plnes will be similar to the number of ferral's so it may pan out.
bdl2333
bdl2333
NSW
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21 Jan 2009 12:03pm
Jaime said...

I sailed Kurnell today, 25+ knots and really steady, great ramps on the outside, clean flat water on the inside and only two other guys out.
No crowds, close rigging to the water, unfortunately 80 km round trip from the cbd.
It certainly beats Kyeemagh, as Tim describes it yesterday.
Oh, and happy birthday to big Jeremy, he came down with his big mate 'dutchie', and some very cute fans/colleagues from the whitehorse.



yeah that session sounds okay Jamie but i'm more interested to hear about Jeremy's colleagues. Will they be a regular feature at Kurnell? might be worth the extra k's then!
Had an awesome session at Kurnell during the festive season. i think i need to relocate to the Sutherland Shire!
timford
timford
NSW
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18 Feb 2009 10:53am
Looks like the pipeline barge has arrived and is moored at Balmain wharf.
it can be seen from the Anzac Bridge.
Its pretty bloody big, there will be no missing it when it arrives.
Wineman
Wineman
NSW
1412 posts
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19 Feb 2009 7:39pm
Yeah it's BIG

100m x 30m x 6 storeys high.

With dredges front & rear it'll be 1.5 to 2km long
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
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19 Feb 2009 9:49pm
Latest from the Sydney Water site.


Community and Construction Updates

Summary Invitation - Kyeemagh community event - Sunday 22 February

Additional Information The community is invited to attend a sausage sizzle to celebrate the arrival of the lay barge called the Nebula to Botany Bay and the successful completion of microtunnelling under Tancred Avenue. The Nebula will be used to lay pipe across Botany Bay this year as part of Sydney’s Desalination Project.



They say celebrate we say mourn - Sell your windsurfing sole for a sausage

(Edit) - I hope its only Pork sausages - hehehehe.....[}:)]
timford
timford
NSW
510 posts
NSW, 510 posts
20 Feb 2009 6:20pm
well there goes any chance of a light wind fling for the boss and the learner on sunday avo then! grrr
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
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20 Feb 2009 6:26pm
timford said...

well there goes any chance of a light wind fling for the boss and the learner on sunday avo then! grrr


There is always Narrabeen Lake. No chance of construction works there. Plus the serenity of bushlands and easy parking. From the sound of it all the sea lice have migrated from Narrabeen Lake to Botany Bay this summer too.


stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
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5 Mar 2009 9:06pm
have a look at the map on this page:

http://www.sydneywater.com.au/EnsuringtheFuture/Desalination/BotanyBayCrossing.cfm

Given where they will dredge and deposit the sand I wonder how much it will influence the water quality in Botany Bay.

Also, I love how they trivialize the environmental impact of the energy consumed to desalinate seawater... There is a "pretty" one pager on the factsheet page of the same web site talking about how there will be zero impact on greenhouse gases from the operation of the plant because they use wind energy to produce the power... hm, I wonder what they do on days when there isn't enough wind? Turn of the water supply for the Inner West?
AUS-057
AUS-057
QLD
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6 Mar 2009 6:22am
Any one know of any of the dredging crew? Perhaps they could build us a nice North-South sandbank?
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