what's your fastest GPS speed in light wind?

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windwarning
windwarning
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13 Jan 2009 1:19am
Every one always asks, whats your best GPS time for when the wind is over 25 knots? But i was just wondering the other day, with the new sailboards now like the new freeride starboard funtura, jp excite and the i-sonics slalom ect... and say a 7.5 and upwards light wind sail. What type of GPS recordings has everyone been getting in light wind say under 15 knots? I dont have a GPS so I dont know my time and i need 15 knots to get planning with my 6m race sail. But I saw guys on formula gear and i-sonics the other week and the speeds they were doing was amazing in real light wind. Looked like it was 20 knots from the beach where I was standing. But it wasn't because no one with sails under 7.5 m could get going on a plane, we were all stuck on the beach. So I think it was about 10 knots. For the guys who have kept track over the years with there GPSs. Has your time in the last few years gotting faster with the newer technology?

UNDER 15 knots POST YOUR FASTEST GPS TIME


lalalamort
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13 Jan 2009 1:36am
THis is pointless, yo ucannot tell waht the exact speed of the wind is, so no one will know
windwarning
windwarning
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13 Jan 2009 1:54am
lalalamort said...

THis is pointless, yo ucannot tell waht the exact speed of the wind is, so no one will know


1. well if ya have been checking the trees like me for the last 10 years you will know when it is blowing under 15 knots

2. you could buy a wind anemometer and a GPS on ebay for about 100 bucks

3. when there is only guys with 7.5 m sails planing you know its under 15 knots

and the qustion was mainly for what speed can ya do in any light wind speed under 15 knots? does not have to be exact
cheers buddy
OceanBlue64
OceanBlue64
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13 Jan 2009 8:59am
12 - 14 knot wind, 8.5 KA Formula, 105 Hypersonic, 30cm Select Weed. - 23.107 knots
http://gpsteamchallenge.com.au/showsession.php?date=2009-01-04&team=29

I do about 20 knots on the 155 GO if its around 10 - 12 knots.
Waiting4wind
Waiting4wind
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13 Jan 2009 9:06am
On a recent run I did 31 knots on a 7.8m sail and Isonic 111. While it was a light day I would say it was around 20 knots in the gust that I was riding. It was the end of the day and wind was dying so I had my sail bagged out, perfect set up for the downwind charge.

Light days can be good for the lucky speed run. Water is flatter, so a nice fat gust can give you a good speed.

Sydney can be pretty gusty so it's hard to say what the the breeze was at the time of a run. I check on Seabreeze when I get home but that's still a rough indicator. Typically on 7.8m days 12-18 knots my speeds are 26-29 knots.

I do have a wind guage but the breeze on the shore is quite different from the sailing zone. Even the wind guage at the airport tower we sail near will give a different reading because of the height it's at. Need to figure out how to have one attached to the GPS while sailing.
Bender
Bender
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13 Jan 2009 8:21am
33.5knts(2sec max only) in a 15-18knts. The water was glassy flat on a summer easterly(offshore) at the Lechenault Inlet in WA.

Kit was F2 SX XL, 7.7m Tushy X-15 and 40cm Choco Weed Fin
knot board
knot board
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13 Jan 2009 9:29am
Hey windwarning, I though you don't sail unless it's mast hight and blowing dogs off chains.
Herbylyn
Herbylyn
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13 Jan 2009 9:36am
The question remains.....How can anyone report what the wind was on the water right where and when they were sailing?????
Old Salty
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13 Jan 2009 11:21am
22 kts on 144ltr with 8.5 mtr sail in 12 - 15kts at Inverloch
windwarning
windwarning
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13 Jan 2009 11:26am
Herbylyn said...

The question remains.....How can anyone report what the wind was on the water right where and when they were sailing?????


A wind anemometer can not only measure the wind speed in knots but also the average knots over any time, they all have that funtion now. You can buy them from dick smith for 100 dollars or ebay for about $50 dollars.

I spose you have to go by the average knots then.
Merricks
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13 Jan 2009 3:00pm
On January 4, 2009, Westernport Bay, with the weather station off Somers and Balnarring that transmits to yacht clubs around the bay was reading 8 knots S average. My highest 10 second average speed was 19.90 knots on a Formula 159 with a 11m Severne SSR. Max speed displayed for the session was 20.72 knots.
A great afternoon of cruising on the Formula gear fully powered up. See my post in Windsurfing Victoria for my GPS track.
Bondalucci
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13 Jan 2009 4:36pm
knot board said...

Hey windwarning, I though you don't sail unless it's mast hight and blowing dogs off chains.


Hey Knotty,
Lay off Wind Warning this thread.
He's showing us that he's capable of good grammar when he wants to be, and his question is a good, interesting one and deserves responses.
If nothing else, he's showing us that he's been pulling everyones chain up till now.
knot board
knot board
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13 Jan 2009 4:24pm
Bondalucci said...

knot board said...

Hey windwarning, I though you don't sail unless it's mast hight and blowing dogs off chains.


Hey Knotty,
Lay off Wind Warning this thread.
He's showing us that he's capable of good grammar when he wants to be, and his question is a good, interesting one and deserves responses.
If nothing else, he's showing us that he's been pulling everyones chain up till now.




242 troll posts and 1 interesting one, suddenly he deserves a response?

He should cut his losses and start with a new username.
sausage
sausage
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13 Jan 2009 5:27pm
knot board said...

Bondalucci said...

knot board said...

Hey windwarning, I though you don't sail unless it's mast hight and blowing dogs off chains.


Hey Knotty,
Lay off Wind Warning this thread.
He's showing us that he's capable of good grammar when he wants to be, and his question is a good, interesting one and deserves responses.
If nothing else, he's showing us that he's been pulling everyones chain up till now.




242 troll posts and 1 interesting one, suddenly he deserves a response?

He should cut his losses and start with a new username.



^^^

Hey Knotboard,

Isn't that 242 droll posts and 1 interesting one..........

Have you got any suggestions for his new username?...........

windwarning
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13 Jan 2009 6:50pm
knot board said...

Hey windwarning, I though you don't sail unless it's mast hight and blowing dogs off chains.


nar dude, my dream has always been to sail in light wind, say, 10-15 knots as fast as what I can in 15-20 knots. Then we all wont need to take up kiting and they are starting to make boards and sails that can and are fun to use, wich is cool as. Then i can windsurf every day not just when its real windy.
Mobydisc
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13 Jan 2009 10:13pm
windwarning said...


nar dude, my dream has always been to sail in light wind, say, 10-15 knots as fast as what I can in 15-20 knots. Then we all wont need to take up kiting and they are starting to make boards and sails that can and are fun to use, wich is cool as. Then i can windsurf every day not just when its real windy.


Sounds like you want a formula or formula like board and a big sail. They are great to watch in light winds of 10 knots down to about 7 or so. I wouldn't worry about kiting. It seems to have a wind range of about 10 to 30 knots while windsurfing has a wind range of about 1 knot to 50.

Bondalucci
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13 Jan 2009 10:45pm
Knot board said,


242 troll posts and 1 interesting one, suddenly he deserves a response?

He should cut his losses and start with a new username.



Never know Knotty,... Could be "Born Again!"
- Let he who be without sin or vice cast the first stone.
( OK, here's a bag of rocks to get you underway}

Gotta admit he's using a lot more prepositions in his posts than we've been treated to in the past. (and he's talking sense)
sausage
sausage
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13 Jan 2009 10:28pm
Bondalucci said...

Knot board said,


242 troll posts and 1 interesting one, suddenly he deserves a response?

He should cut his losses and start with a new username.



Never know Knotty,... Could be "Born Again!"
- Let he who be without sin or vice cast the first stone.
( OK, here's a bag of rocks to get you underway}

Gotta admit he's using a lot more prepositions in his posts than we've been treated to in the past. (and he's talking sense)


Probably taking his meds again - just jokes WW

[Funny coincidence, his initials are the same as the little singapore buddy dude]
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
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14 Jan 2009 12:06am
I just realised - WindWarning and I have the same initials! Duh! Took a while!

I always knew the guy was all right.
bubs
bubs
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13 Jan 2009 11:43pm
If you have a look at the GTC (gpsteamchallenge.com.au) i posted some reasonable sessions in very marginal conditions!!! I am pretty light though but still did okay i would like to think. Look for Gybe Turkeys results in January there's a few 25 knot + in marginal conditions!!! now i just need some of those ideal ones to get some really good speeds ha ha.

Cheers
Bubs
Bilabog
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26 Jan 2009 10:45am
I bought a I-sonic 122 2008 model, end of last year. I bought a GT31 at X-mass.
I have only recorded my last 11 sailing session so far. In winds form 6 to 18 knot gust I have recorded just over 26 knots Max Speeds plus Max 10s Avs just over 25 knots. Using a 7.5 VGM & Arrows TForce 6.8 using a Select Weed Eliminator Fin.
Because there is not much and the water stays flat and when the gust hits you of around 15 to 18 Knots you get a good speed run.
In winds of about 15 Knots Max I'm doing around 22Knots with my 7.5 VGM.
When I get a bigger sail for the board I will be able to do over 20 knots in winds around 12 knots may-be.

Sea Breeze should have a section where you can register your GPS speeds for all makes of Boards!!
windwarning
windwarning
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27 Jan 2009 12:32am
we need to move away from the high wind speed topics. thats what killed windsurfing and alot of my mates gave it away when i was younger in me 20s searching for the 20+ knots all the time.
mathew
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26 Jan 2009 11:57pm
windwarning said...

we need to move away from the high wind speed topics. thats what killed windsurfing and alot of my mates gave it away when i was younger in me 20s searching for the 20+ knots all the time.


I'm sure that's not one and only reason for the decline... I am pretty sure that GPS's got many people back into the sport.

Bonominator
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27 Jan 2009 3:12pm
mathew said...

windwarning said...

we need to move away from the high wind speed topics. thats what killed windsurfing and alot of my mates gave it away when i was younger in me 20s searching for the 20+ knots all the time.


I'm sure that's not one and only reason for the decline... I am pretty sure that GPS's got many people back into the sport.




Yep Matt I agree and the gear is way better than the early nineties when speedsailing was in decline. eg. In 1992, I would have thought it was inpossible for the average punter (me) to hit a peak of 36knots in 18-22 knots of wind, yet that's just what I managed a couple of weeks ago at Sandy Point with a Carbon Art SP40, 5.7 Hellcat and 20cm KA fin (76kg). I don't find this result particularly impressive either, given the quality of my equipment and the smoothness of the water. I reckon most good sailors could manage this. That's why I think the topic is a little wierd, like trying to see how fast a Diablo goes with only four of its 10 cylinders firing.
sausage
sausage
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27 Jan 2009 2:56pm
Yeh I agree with you Bonominator, this topic is slightly subjective. It's like walking as an olympic sport or equivalent to a competion for who can whisper the loudest

windwarning
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27 Jan 2009 4:33pm
Bonominator said...

mathew said...

windwarning said...

we need to move away from the high wind speed topics. thats what killed windsurfing and alot of my mates gave it away when i was younger in me 20s searching for the 20+ knots all the time.


I'm sure that's not one and only reason for the decline... I am pretty sure that GPS's got many people back into the sport.




Yep Matt I agree and the gear is way better than the early nineties when speedsailing was in decline. eg. In 1992, I would have thought it was inpossible for the average punter (me) to hit a peak of 36knots in 18-22 knots of wind, yet that's just what I managed a couple of weeks ago at Sandy Point with a Carbon Art SP40, 5.7 Hellcat and 20cm KA fin (76kg). I don't find this result particularly impressive either, given the quality of my equipment and the smoothness of the water. I reckon most good sailors could manage this. That's why I think the topic is a little wierd, like trying to see how fast a Diablo goes with only four of its 10 cylinders firing.


WHAT SO A WINDSURFER CANT GO FAST IN LIGHT WIND IS THAT WHAT YA SAYING? GOOD ONE GUYS. TRY SAYING THAT TO NEILPRYED WITH THERE NEW 7.5 V8 HELIUM CAM SAIL THAT GETS YOU PLANING IN 6 KNOTS
AND TRY TELLING THAT TO STARBOARD WITH THERE NEW I-SONIC THEY JUST BROUGHT OUT.
AND TRY TELLING KONA THEY HAVE A BOARD THAT YOU NOT ONLY CAN SPEEDSAIL IN 6 KNOTS BUT WAVESAIL AS WELL ON A FULL PLANE.
halfabee
halfabee
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31 Jan 2009 6:39pm
I agree to the slight absurdity of this thread, as specific wind speed can't accurately be measured from the perspective of the board.

But I wholeheartedly endorse this thread because going as fast as possible in the lightest of winds has been what has gotten me back in to windsurfing. I love light wind sailing, it's fun, the wind is predictable, and the water is nice and flat. I just love going blasting in 10 knot winds on my formula with an 11M sail. Even if it is a bitch to uphaul.

I've clocked 24 knots with my 11M sail and a 160L formula in around 15 knot winds, I thought it was pretty impressive at the time.
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