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Scooby
Scooby
NSW
40 posts
NSW, 40 posts
26 Jun 2011 8:02pm
who has few useful tips to reduce some of the "walks of shame"....?
not a beginner any more, and i start to think that now it's not only my average technique - but also the equipment that is "helping" me to walk from time to time....
Bondalucci
Bondalucci
VIC
1580 posts
VIC, 1580 posts
26 Jun 2011 8:29pm
Here's a tip to avoid the walk of shame…

When you first get out on the water, if you're going ok, try and work your way up wind a fair bit. Then try and sail back and forth from your new upwind position.

This gives you a margin for error later on, if the wind picks up and you can't handle it (get blown down wind while you're in the drink etc, or if it drops off and you have to slog back in)

Don't forget though, the walk of shame is part of building character

(so I'm told)
lao shi
lao shi
WA
1346 posts
WA, 1346 posts
26 Jun 2011 7:35pm
Practice your tacks.
Use gusts to get upwind but make sure to keep board speed.
Have a read of this www.guycribb.com/userfiles/documents/cranking%20upwind.pdf
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
26 Jun 2011 9:37pm
Don't sail in rivers or off beaches where the wind and current are going in the same direction.

Buy a formula board [}:)]
keef
keef
NSW
2016 posts
NSW, 2016 posts
26 Jun 2011 10:55pm
lao shi said...

Practice your tacks.
Use gusts to get upwind but make sure to keep board speed.
Have a read of this www.guycribb.com/userfiles/documents/cranking%20upwind.pdf


doesn't always work, the only time i have sailed the runway at kyeema was during the desalination and it was blocked off, i rigged a 5/8 n/p rss, was having a blast on my flattish custom until i headed downwind to where my gear was, i hadn't noticed the wind was around 30 knots and i just couldn't run off the wind so i had the walk of shame downwind to get the van and drive to where my gear was,
the sad part was i had a huge stack and lost my GPS so no record of the speed runs
choco
choco
SA
4181 posts
SA, 4181 posts
26 Jun 2011 10:29pm
don't look at it as a walk of shame, you should look at it as a walk of discovery
Zfy
Zfy
NSW
51 posts
Zfy Zfy
NSW, 51 posts
26 Jun 2011 11:09pm
Where are you sailing, ocean with waves/swell or in totally flat water?
What wind strengths?
What gear are you using?
In straps and/or harness?

Hard to narrow down any advice with you describing your technique as 'average'... that puts you above most of the people who are probably going to give you any 'tips' on here!
hamburglar
hamburglar
ACT
2174 posts
ACT, 2174 posts
26 Jun 2011 11:30pm
Scooby said...

who has few useful tips to reduce some of the "walks of shame"....?


trade in your windsurfer for some kitesurfing gear...........oohhhh your not talking about the walk from the car park to the water are you? sorry disregard
Scooby
Scooby
NSW
40 posts
NSW, 40 posts
26 Jun 2011 11:42pm
TonyMurray - good point - answers below -
Where are you sailing, ocean with waves/swell or in totally flat water?
<Port Phillip bay>

What wind strengths?
<25+ Knts>
What gear are you using?
<130L board, Sail - 5, Fin - 44 >
In straps and/or harness?
<yes x 2>
TristanF
TristanF
VIC
230 posts
VIC, 230 posts
27 Jun 2011 12:48am
Scooby said...


What wind strengths?
<25+ Knts>
What gear are you using?
<130L board, Sail - 5, Fin - 44 >


Try a smaller fin and/or larger sail (depending on your weight). 44 is way too big for a 5m. This may seem counterintuitive but if you're overfinned you've got too much drag which holds back your acceleration onto the plane - bad news in a gusty northerly. I also find when I go larger on the sail and smaller on the fin, the board is more controllable and easier to keep flatter. Which all adds up to more power and speed, which makes staying upwind straightforward.

Also make sure your sail has the right downhaul and outhaul.
fullmoon
fullmoon
WA
314 posts
WA, 314 posts
27 Jun 2011 8:42pm

Mobydisc said...

Don't sail in rivers or off beaches where the wind and current are going in the same direction.

Buy a formula board [}:)]



Or a SUPer.

evets
evets
WA
685 posts
WA, 685 posts
27 Jun 2011 10:01pm
lao shi said...

Practice your tacks.
Use gusts to get upwind but make sure to keep board speed.
Have a read of this www.guycribb.com/userfiles/documents/cranking%20upwind.pdf


Thanks Lao, that is great advice
Brett Morris
Brett Morris
NSW
1204 posts
NSW, 1204 posts
28 Jun 2011 11:42am
Walk of shame sucks, but happens to us all. Generally it is an indication of being under powered for the conditions. Developing a good technique for sailing upwind can save you 9 out of 10 times though....the wave sailing guys are experts at this....
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
28 Jun 2011 4:09pm
Brett Morris said...

Walk of shame sucks, but happens to us all. Generally it is an indication of being under powered for the conditions. Developing a good technique for sailing upwind can save you 9 out of 10 times though....the wave sailing guys are experts at this....


I always sail upwind when I start never really realised I was avoiding the walk of shame..+ don't sail somewhere that could turn offshore later in the day..check the forecast.
Zfy
Zfy
NSW
51 posts
Zfy Zfy
NSW, 51 posts
28 Jun 2011 5:05pm
I'm don't have any big gear, so your setup is a bit out of my area of expertise. But a 5.0 on a 130 litre board sounds like you're pushing the boundaries a bit. If the sail is too small for the board it can have a tendency to steer the board downwind (this is common for people trying to teach their kids with small sails on bigger boards).
A great way to make up ground is to use the swell or waves (even small stuff) when coming back in towards shore. Once you feel the board pick up the ride of the swell you can get the board pointed a lot higher than you normally could. It sometimes helps to come out of the straps and stand more forward on the board to do this.
Some good advice from some of the others on here.
Look for others out in the water who are making ground up wind and see if you can find things they seem to be doing different than you... foot position, sail position, body position etc, etc, etc
Have fun. I've been at it for 30 years and still learning... and love it!
graceman
graceman
WA
323 posts
WA, 323 posts
28 Jun 2011 3:40pm
choco said...

don't look at it as a walk of shame, you should look at it as a walk of discovery


Yep any broken shell or bit of glass in the sand, not to mention the bottom dwelling wildlife.
FlickySpinny
FlickySpinny
WA
657 posts
WA, 657 posts
29 Jun 2011 6:09pm
Think like a freestyler...

Weight forward, putting your weight through the third leg (your mast foot, not the other one).

In average or underpowered conditions, front leg a little bent, knee facing forward.

These two actions will get the windward rail into the water a little which does two things
a) points you upwind
b) provides more resistance to the water to prevent you from being pushed sideways (like the keel on a yacht)

Most important of all though... LOOK.

With virtually everything in windsurfing from gybes to vulcans (there are a couple of exceptions) your head determines where you will go.

If you are looking slightly upwind, your body will fall into the right shape to sail upwind.

Advanced tip: If actually underpowered, and trying to get upwind on a decent size board (100l +) take your back foot out of the strap. Controversial, but it works. If it feels like you're nearly catapulting, you're doing it right. This takes the weight off the back of the board and helps keep you planing.


sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
1 Jul 2011 11:48am
graceman said...

choco said...

don't look at it as a walk of shame, you should look at it as a walk of discovery


Yep any broken shell or bit of glass in the sand, not to mention the bottom dwelling wildlife.


That's where booties come in..
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
1 Jul 2011 8:48pm
sboardcrazy said...

graceman said...

choco said...

don't look at it as a walk of shame, you should look at it as a walk of discovery

Yep any broken shell or bit of glass in the sand, not to mention the bottom dwelling wildlife.

That's where booties come in..

They won't stop glass, cobblers or sting rays (plenty of the last 2 where I am), but they might work for rocks.

brad1
brad1
QLD
232 posts
QLD, 232 posts
2 Jul 2011 4:01pm
choco said...

don't look at it as a walk of shame, you should look at it as a walk of discovery


You've run real deep and had a good ride!!
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