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sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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16 Mar 2011 4:36pm
www.abc.net.au/news/2011-03-16/woman-may-lose-arm-after-shark-attack/2655072
If you thought too much you wouldn't get out of bed!
Little Jon
Little Jon
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16 Mar 2011 11:34pm
I've been waiting for a good day to get up there cos I've heard is really nice but not so sure now
WaynoB
WaynoB
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17 Mar 2011 10:09am
Little Jon said...

I've been waiting for a good day to get up there cos I've heard is really nice but not so sure now


Hi Jon,

Yes it is really nice. The water is usually flat in a NE'er and clear as a bell. There is plenty of sea life around, including dolphins and the occasional shark. I have seen Hammerheads chasing sea turtles in the bay. Never seen a GW though. It is a 1 hour 45 minutes drive from the CC.

I guess the key is try not to fall in too much or if you do, uphaul instead of water start. If we thought about the sharks that are there we would stay on dry land.

What happened to the young woman being towed by a boat was terrible bad luck and I am very sorry she has now (reportedly) had her left arm amputated.

Jimmy's beach is still a great place to sail and you should do it at least once.

Wayne.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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17 Mar 2011 10:57am
I used to love it in a SE & was going to go there again but maybe not..ugh re arm .I thought it wasnt that bad from news reports..
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
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17 Mar 2011 10:59am
Yes on both counts. Terrible news of the attack and the result. Awful to think at the relatively young age of 24 to lose an arm.

Yes Jimmy's Beach is a great flat water windsurfing spot. There would be few spots around that can be much better. I was up there at the end of January. Stayed on the water at Shoal Bay and sailed over to Jimmy's Beach for some flat water. A fantastic sandbar at one end to rest make an easy restart.

The only downer was a difficult launch as the trees and sandunes create a wind shadow. The wind is sort of cross offshore in a NE seabreeze.

Seems to be more and more shark attacks. Why? Are there more sharks? Are there more people in the water? Is there less food for sharks? My brother in law is a commercial fisherman. He says there are heaps of sharks out in the ocean.

FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
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17 Mar 2011 12:31pm
I was surprised to watch a nature show one day that talked about the most prolific breeding ground of great whites in Australia... and guess where it was?

It was on the other side of the sandbar, the ocean facing beach, but still very close to one of my favorite sailing places!

They are supposed to only be juvenile sharks there, but I still tend to uphaul when I feel nervous about spending too much time in the water.

Haircut
Haircut
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17 Mar 2011 2:46pm
Mobydisc said...



Seems to be more and more shark attacks. Why? Are there more sharks? Are there more people in the water? Is there less food for sharks?



I don't think GW's used to be a protected fish, now they are (apparently for last 15years or so?) maybe that means more of them around

I'd imagine , given half a chance, wouldn't mind a an oportunity to "thin out their numbers" so to speak

kasingapore
kasingapore
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17 Mar 2011 3:50pm
Update: I just heard she gets to keep the arm. Still plenty of damage to her neck and face that requires fixing though. The stuff of nightmares.

Shout-out to the lady.

Bryan
waggles56
waggles56
VIC
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17 Mar 2011 7:21pm
My son just announced he is moving to Nelson Bay next week and I thought, "Great. Free accommodation and good sailing" Now I am thinking, "can I sail from one beach to another without risking a turn in the deep water?" (I have not been there before.)
needsalt
needsalt
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18 Mar 2011 8:15pm
Haircut said...

Mobydisc said...



Seems to be more and more shark attacks. Why? Are there more sharks? Are there more people in the water? Is there less food for sharks?



I don't think GW's used to be a protected fish, now they are (apparently for last 15years or so?) maybe that means more of them around

I'd imagine , given half a chance, wouldn't mind a an oportunity to "thin out their numbers" so to speak




In NSW, Great Whites are still declared a vulnerable species under threatened species legislation. Vulnerable species face a high risk of extinction in the medium term future.

These dudes are some of the most majestic animals in the ocean and play an important role in marine ecosystems. At the end of the day, it's their world and we should feel priviledged to play in it. I reckon the risk of shark attack is a small price to pay for the bliss of windsurfing. For me, I'd much rather be chomped while windsurfing than wrapped around a tree on the highway, or rot away in a hospital bed. Incidentally, I think statistically the risk of dying in a car crash is much greater than the risk of shark attack.

We all have to go sometime. It's all about the number of hours you can cram in on the water in the meantime...
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
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18 Mar 2011 8:59pm
needsalt said...


We all have to go sometime. It's all about the number of hours you can cram in on the water in the meantime...



That's a good philosophy!
lotofwind
lotofwind
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18 Mar 2011 9:49pm
Wet Willy said...

needsalt said...


We all have to go sometime. It's all about the number of hours you can cram in on the water in the meantime...



That's a good philosophy!


Yes but,
the more hours in the water,the more chance of getting nibbled on,

Your right though,charge life full on , enjoy what ever you want to enjoy, cause you dont know when the man will point the boney finger at YOU.

If you worry about all the different threats and ways you might get killed,
you might as well live in a bubble.

Mobydisc
Mobydisc
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18 Mar 2011 9:51pm
Statistics when it comes to shark attacks can't really mean all that much. The vast majority of people rarely go for a swim or enter the water where sharks patrol. So those who do enter the water regularly must stand a higher chance of being attacked than the general population.

As great whites are now protected their numbers will increase and the number of shark attacks will rise. There is no way of getting around this.

needsalt
needsalt
NSW
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19 Mar 2011 12:43pm
Mobydisc said...

Statistics when it comes to shark attacks can't really mean all that much. The vast majority of people rarely go for a swim or enter the water where sharks patrol. So those who do enter the water regularly must stand a higher chance of being attacked than the general population.

As great whites are now protected their numbers will increase and the number of shark attacks will rise. There is no way of getting around this.




As this thread has already highlighted, great whites have been protected for many years. Without doing a full literature review, I'm pretty sure that the science indicates that numbers are still declining if anything. Hence they are still listed as vulnerable. Protection only means they can't be targeted by rec or commercial fishers. They still fall victim to shark nets (non commercial), bycatch of rec and commercial catches in NSW, and lots of targeted fishing beyond Australian waters.

If you really want to find things to worry about and reasons not to windsurf, try bull or tiger sharks. Neither of these species are protected, although science indicates that most shark species are in decline.

I'll save my worry for the health of the ocean. Reckon trying to look after the ocean is the least I can do in return for the joy of windsurfing.

And sailing is still safer than driving. With regard to sharks anyway. Not if you count all my enormous stacks
FlickySpinny
FlickySpinny
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19 Mar 2011 10:36am
Mobydisc said...
...where sharks patrol.


Sorry Moby, but that's a classic line from someone with a shark fear / hate / axe to grind ... the use of emotive language to promote the concept that sharks swim up and down a beach "patrolling" looking for some unwary swimmer.
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
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19 Mar 2011 1:04pm
don't get me wrong, i'm not "pro" shark fishing, but listening to the radio about it, there are plenty who'd love a witch hunt (shark)

i don't catch or eat them, so therefore i'm hoping they won't eat me
Mecky
Mecky
NSW
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19 Mar 2011 8:35pm
Haircut said...

... but listening to the radio about it, ...


Is that by any chance talk-back radio?

As far as I've heard: the water becomes cleaner in coastal areas which attrackts more fish - and their hunters...

Solution for the problem (?): be faster then the shark and don't fall in the water...

Would it help to wear a diving knife?
Brett Morris
Brett Morris
NSW
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21 Mar 2011 11:33am
Shark attacks are horrible, but will happen when humans enter their domain.

This is pretty loose, but over fishing (commercial) is the biggest issue by a country mile!!!!
nosinkanow
nosinkanow
NSW
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21 Mar 2011 2:17pm
Over the last couple of years shark attacks have seemed to be on the rise, theories have ranged from traditionally commercial fishing areas now being non-commercial allowing schools to flourish to unusual water temperatures bringing bait fish schools closer to shore with all scenarios attracting the predators. The former is created by the government and the latter Mother Nature, recently she's been really pissed off with all of us.

If you are going to go you might as well go doing something you are enjoying.
nosinkanow
nosinkanow
NSW
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21 Mar 2011 2:20pm
Mecky said...
Would it help to wear a diving knife?


Only if you are Tarzan.

michaels
michaels
NSW
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23 Mar 2011 11:56am
Jimmys beach is one of the best spots to sail a short board in a NE.
the best breeze is only 100 M. or so offshore. You sail parallel to the beach
all the way to the sandbar where you gibe and scream back, pick a spot on the beach to gibe and begin your circuits. There is no need to sail beyond
the sandbar as you will fall into the wind shadow and sharkies plaground (so im told and believe). One more word of caution.Razor fish that bury into the sand leaving very sharp shell above sea floor will cut through a booty no worries should you be unlucky enough to land on one jumping off your board.
I wish That lucky girl all the best and a speedy recovery.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
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23 Mar 2011 12:17pm
I know there's sharks in Lake Macquarie & I was out at Coal Pt on Monday pm by myself.It was overcast , late in the day and no other sharkbait offered.I was on the big board so I can uphaul & didn't fall off much but near the end I fell off & waterstarted & kept imagining fins..I decided as it was dinnertime for sharks it might be a good time to call it a day..Where was everyone ? It was a great 15 - 20kt NE ? A few extra morsels on offer would have given me more confidence.. Thats the problem with winter ..generally I'm the only one out..
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