NSW
64 posts
I'm holidaying at Portsea/Sorrento on the Mornington Peninsula next week with family. I wavesail and also enjoy good flatwater slalom/super-x/bump & jump.
I'd appreciate any help for local sailors about sailing in that region. Can anyone help with the following questions:
Are there any good sailing locations nearby?
What are the prevailing winds at this time of year?
Would I be better served with my waveboard or my super-x board (or both)?
VIC
9 posts
Hi Yagon,
I'm a sailor from Melbourne. Portsea / Sorrento is on a narrow peninsula, one side is Port Phillip bay (bump & jump), the other side Bass straight (wave sailing).
Bay:
In northerlies the best place to sail is at Rye, its a long open beach and best just to look for other sailors and join in with them. There is an outer sand bar so you can sail flatter water on the inside or rougher water outside.
You can also sail the westerlies at Rye, but for the southwesterlies best to go further north to Safety Beach (15 minute drive).
Wavesailing:
In south westerlies you wave sailing around at Point Leo (20-ish minutes drive). If you find Point Leo on the map, you sail at "Suicides" which is basically at the end of the point and you walk down a long flight of stairs. Ask some locals where the reef is, and where the gap is to sail out of. Its a bit tricky getting out but pretty safe once you are out.
Another place to wavesail is at the "Pines" at Shoreham. Has to be a fair bit of swell though and not low tide as its a flat reef you sail over. You drive all the way along the dirt track and sail at the point to the right. An easier place to sail, but sometimes the surfers stay out way longer than they should.
You should only get Northerlies (warm & gusty) or West to SouthWesterlies (cool & strong). The "southerly busters" down here can be really windy and cold. So bring all your gear.....this is Victoria!
Bring a good wetsuit!! At the wavesailing nationals years ago the Queenslanders came with 2 mil shortie springsuits....they froze there butts off when it got windy.
The bass straight side of Portsea / Sorrento or anywhere along that coast are nasty places. I wouldnt sail out there unless you surname is Polakow! Worth driving over to Gunamatta beach for a surf though, but again ask the locals where the reefs are.
There are no sailboard shops down there, closest is SHQ in Sandringham, about a 90 minute drive. But there are heaps fo surf shops.
Also worth going out to Point Nepean, which used to be closed for the army, but you can now get out there. You can hire a bike out there as there are no cars allowed.
Have fun.....ask more Q's if you need.
Brett
NSW
64 posts
Thanks for the awesome info. I hope to see you on the water!
I'll probably only bring my waveboard and leave the super-x at home, given the seemingly high quality wavesailing locations nearby. Point Leo looks like a great spot.
I'm also hoping to surf Quarantines and Spooks. Does anyone ever sail at Quarantines (just inside Port Philip Bay, it looks like it might work in a SW)?
Richard
VIC
9 posts
Hi Richard,
You wont see us on the water, cos we are off to WA on the 5th!!
Me personally, I'd bring the Supercross as well, just because you may not get enough wind for your waveboard.
I've never heard of anyone sailing Quarantines. Though there are some hard core wave sailors down there. If anyone John Jacobs would have. You are right that it probably would work in a SW....problem is getting out to it. I'll ask around.
seeya
Brett
NSW
64 posts
Have fun in WA - I holidayed in Margaret's last year and it was sensational.
Re wind strengths: how often can I expect sailable conditions?
Are the SWers frontal or a seabreeze?
R
NSW
64 posts
PS. How long is the drive to Sandy Point?
VIC
1509 posts
To Sandy from Sorrento is probably about 2 1/2 hrs + or -. Well worth it if you know the conditions are going to be good- a long way to drive to be becalmed (as has happened- bugger.)
The SW'ers are mainly frontal- the sea breezes are more southerly, but there's not much in it. The sea breezes are stronger at the top end of the bay, but you might get a decent offshore sail out from Rye. I'm not sure how many good sailing days you'd get on the Peninsula, but the sea breezes have been belting in at least 4 days a week in Melbourne, as observed from the office window.
I've never seen anyone wavesailing off any of the back beaches at Portsea or Sorrento, or anywhere down to Cape Schank, but Lindstroms says, the beaches in Westernport, ie Flinders backbeach, & Point Leo are great when they work. Or jump on the ferry and drive down to Torquay.
And I won't see you down there either. I'm off to WA tomorrow. Woo hoo! Have fun
VIC
9 posts
Agree with MikeyS's comments.
Sandy Point is known for its flat water speed sailing, but many of us believe its the best wavesailing spot in Victoria....mainly because it often gets wind & waves. Easterlies at Sandy Point are great....cross off, grovel out but great down the line wave sailing.
Our windy times are winter and spring. Summer is usually northerlies or sea breezes with the occasional southerly buster. I guess you can tell by the fact that all the Victorians are off to WA that this isnt our windy time of year!
Having said that I sailed my 79 litre waveboard and 5 meter sail 3 times over the Xmas break....
Mornington Peninsula is a great area to holiday....and hopefully you'll get some good waves and wind.
Let us know how you go.
Brett
NSW
64 posts
I've just checked the forecast and it looks great - strong winds nearly every day next week. However, they are all Easterly winds.
Any recommendations for sailing in an Easterly breeze?
R
VIC
9 posts
Easterly......um??
Best place is Sandy Point but as we said, thats 2 hours drive from Portsea.
I've never sailed an Easterly on the Peninsula. If you want to sail the bay, it'll be will be offshore and gusty. If it was really strong Easterly you could probably sail Blairgourie....really just get yourself as far around toward Point Nepean as possible, so its more cross shore.
Otherwise go into Westernport bay. You could sail at the Pines in Shoreham but rather than sailing the reef on the right, sail the reef on the left. I've never sailed it, but I've surfed it, its quite good little left hander. Cant remember its name.
You could also go out at Gunnamatta, but only if you are really experienced and its not big. I wouldnt though.
But if you do have the time......Easterlies nearly always blow harder at Sandy Point. Go into town, pull up opposite the shops, walk across the main path and sail upwaind from there. It'll be cross off shore. Its an open beach break, gentle waves and lots of fun.
If you wanted to be really adventurous.....catch the ferry across to Queenscliffe, drive 5 minutes to Point Lonsdale, take the long walk out past the Surf Life Saving club and sail there. I havent done it for 7 or 8 years but its a great spot in an easterly. As you sail in you look in thru the heads toward Portsea. There are some big reefs there, but the water is usually really clear so you can see where they are.
Or of course, catch the plane to WA !!
have fun
Brett