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albentley
albentley
NSW
297 posts
NSW, 297 posts
25 Jan 2011 4:20pm
Hi guys,

Am looking to buy a cheap van for windsurfing, but I haven't been in australia for long so I'm guessing you guys will have a much better idea on the different types available and what works.

Looking for...
- under $5000
- easy and cheap to repair, e.g. lots of parts available
- maximum efficiency (hah) so I was thinking small diesel engine, or maybe dual fuel which there seem to be a lot of here??


SWB or LWB doesn't matter, prob SWB will be cheaper to buy/run and I guess this would also apply to 2wd/4wd. 4wd might be useful but I reckon it would actually only get used once or twice a year.

So does anyone have any recommendations on good makes/models to look for? I am living in Perth by the way, which might make a difference.

Thanks!

Al

p.s. not an excuse for people to post loads of photos of their personal vans!!
BlueStorm
BlueStorm
WA
71 posts
WA, 71 posts
25 Jan 2011 2:12pm
hey albentley i don't have a clue but perhaps try looking in the quokka, i am also in perth by the way. Its a paper in which people advertise anything second hand and sometimes new to sell, i use it for windsurfing gear normally. It comes out every thursday and is in most news agents or you can check it out online www.thewestclassifieds.com.au/ anyway hope i was some help and happy aus day for tomorrow
K Dog
K Dog
VIC
1847 posts
VIC, 1847 posts
25 Jan 2011 5:16pm
Nissan diesel vans would probably fit the bill. They are pretty old and dated, but if you found one with a decent body, the engines tend to go for ever from what I have heard. They are usually LWB. Probably a lot of backpackers retro fit ones around too.....
WindmanV
WindmanV
VIC
819 posts
VIC, 819 posts
25 Jan 2011 6:38pm
Hello, Al,

Toyota HiAce fills the bill on all counts. A diesel may be hard to find but the alternative is a petrol engine running on LPG.

After purchase, strongly recommend getting the radiator and engine cleaned and a new fan belt fitted. Temps in WA can be over 40 deg C for days on end.......a sure killer of all things mechanical.

Hope this helps.
GazMan
GazMan
WA
848 posts
WA, 848 posts
26 Jan 2011 1:16am
albentley said...

- under $5000
- easy and cheap to repair, e.g. lots of parts available


Not sure whether there is any vehicle that would be considered 'cheap to repair' in that price range when parts are readily available unless you can do all of the work yourself as most mechanics charge at least $90-$100 an hour for their time. Possibly an old Transit or Bedford with 6 cylinder motor would be very easy to service and repair if you're mechanically minded but replacement parts are not easy to get for these (I had a 1969 6cyl Transit van for 15 years!). Also, most vans for sale for under $5000 would have well over 200,000 kms on the clock and depending on how well they've been looked after and serviced, could be in either serviceable condition or in need of ongoing expensive repairs!

Probably the most common vans in that price range on oz roads, particularly if you're talking about lots of new or used parts being available, would be the Toyota Hiace and Mitsubishi Express (maybe even the Ford Econovan or Mazda E2000?). I've owned a 95 Express walk-thru van (with motor in front, just like Delicas but without 4wd, diesel or options) for around 7 years but it's been costing me a lot of money of late to keep it on the road.

I really think that a good Toyota Hiace would be the best and most reliable option, though I would suggest you pay particular attention to the following:

- The engine cooling system is critical particularly in hot WA summers. Get whole system professionally checked and pressure tested, check for age of radiator, colour of coolant, and if any water is coming out of exhaust pipe (could point to leaking head gasket)

- Get a friend to drive the van while you follow behind in another vehicle to check for blue smoke coming from exhaust. Also run the engine at idle for at least 5 minutes, then rev engine to see if any blue smoke appears. If blowing smoke, would point to either worn piston rings or valve stem seals (i.e. expensive engine overhaul!)

- If you're serious about a particular van that looks like it's been well looked after, would suggest a comprehensive vehicle inspection by either RAC WA or a Repco Auto Repairer. Well worth expense, I had one done on a dealer used car with 'low km and full service history' a few years ago and was shocked at how much needed to be spent on that vehicle!

The Quokka classifieds are worth checking out, also try these online sites:
www.carsales.com.au/
www.carsguide.com.au/buy-a-car/all-new-and-used/all-states/all-locations/all-bodytypes/all-makes
www.discountusedcars.com.au/
www.drive.com.au/buy-used-cars

Good luck!!!

Herbylyn
Herbylyn
QLD
214 posts
QLD, 214 posts
26 Jan 2011 9:51am
+ me on the Toyota Hi-Ace but try to get a Commuter bus. They are 300 mm
longer and 300mm higher. A mate just picked on up for $5000. There are thousands around as Ex taxis etc. I have a deisel and expect the engine to do 500,000 Km.
keef
keef
NSW
2016 posts
NSW, 2016 posts
26 Jan 2011 11:21am
Herbylyn said...

. There are thousands around as Ex taxis etc. I have a deisel and expect the engine to do 500,000 Km.



herby has the rite idea, i'm part owner of a taxi company, taking into consideration that in nsw every taxi has too have a blue slip inspection every 6 months and stamped by the MTA , taxi vans have a life of 10 years then compulsory off the road, the best too buy is the toyota commuters, there usually set up on duel fuel

unfortunately our vans go to friends and family, the last time i was in TWEED HEADS i noticed heaps of vans getting around with for sale signs , but im not sure if the QLD mta is as strict with there inspection's
GavGav
GavGav
VIC
193 posts
VIC, 193 posts
26 Jan 2011 8:32pm
albentley said...

Hi guys,

Am looking to buy a cheap van for windsurfing,


Just saw this ad and thought of you... How nice of me...

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Miscellaneous/~bv50o/Van-And-Full-Widsurfing-Package-Various.aspx?search=bTdP9wSUHzoYNUouYiiQ0A%3d%3d

It,s in WA and has a bunch of gear as well!

Gav.
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
26 Jan 2011 7:01pm
Herbylyn said...

+ me on the Toyota Hi-Ace but try to get a Commuter bus. They are 300 mm
longer and 300mm higher. A mate just picked on up for $5000. There are thousands around as Ex taxis etc. I have a deisel and expect the engine to do 500,000 Km.


ditto the hiace commuter, I sold mine at 600,00+ kms and it went on to die a 1,100,000, friend is driving one at 700,00+ now

keef
keef
NSW
2016 posts
NSW, 2016 posts
27 Jan 2011 1:29am
my avatar is my hiace turning the clock, it now has 8,000
albentley
albentley
NSW
297 posts
NSW, 297 posts
27 Jan 2011 3:14pm
awesome thanks guys, looks like the hiace or commuter is the one. Will check out some of those websites and quokka.

also good to know about the looking for smoke test!

GavGav not so sure I am looking for a van full of kit - although it looks like a good deal! I have already spent enough of my money on kit :) Also I'm not into slalom enough to want a quiver of overdrives...

thanks again, hope to see some of you out sailing soon!

Al
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