neilpryde batten tensioner broken... again!

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Manuel7
Manuel7
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1349 posts
11 Feb 2021 11:38am


Replaced it twice, figured when the batten sticks out further than the clew, that's what we get!

Anyway, this time I'm thinking about putting the batten rope over the tensioner screw trimming a little dip to keep it in place and call it a repair :D ! Thoughts?
choco
choco
SA
4181 posts
SA, 4181 posts
11 Feb 2021 6:21pm
Did it break on its own or were you applying batten tension?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
11 Feb 2021 4:12pm
If you just put the rope over the end you won't be able to apply enough tension. The camming action of the plastic bit applies all that pressure
Imax1
Imax1
QLD
4937 posts
QLD, 4937 posts
11 Feb 2021 6:28pm
Its NP . They regularly break . Super easy to replace . You just need a stash of spares , there all the same on all NP sails for the last many years . And because there NP , there will be many trashed sails around to get parts .
Over the years I've broken over a dozen .
Orange Whip
Orange Whip
QLD
1080 posts
QLD, 1080 posts
11 Feb 2021 6:41pm
Never broken one, adjust with max out haul.
Imax1
Imax1
QLD
4937 posts
QLD, 4937 posts
11 Feb 2021 6:52pm
^^^^
You know what's going to happen , now that you said that
A few times , while sailing , Ive noticed a batten end sticking out of the sail . I don't over tighten .
Im probably a ham fisted clutz.
Mr Keen
Mr Keen
QLD
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QLD, 692 posts
11 Feb 2021 7:40pm
Orange Whip said..
Never broken one, adjust with max out haul.


That sounds like a compromise, what if you want to let some outhaul off (adjustable) if sailing off the wind?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
11 Feb 2021 5:54pm
I never broke one and thought they were the simplest / best design for a no-tool adjuster
Then again, I tension battens maybe twice in the life of a sail. Racey types maybe do it more?
Orange Whip
Orange Whip
QLD
1080 posts
QLD, 1080 posts
11 Feb 2021 8:00pm
Mr Keen said..

Orange Whip said..
Never broken one, adjust with max out haul.



That sounds like a compromise, what if you want to let some outhaul off (adjustable) if sailing off the wind?


Letting out haul off? I thought we were talking about breaking the plastic batten tensioner clamp, presumably when adjusting them on dry land and more presumably when increasing the tension by screwing them outwards. I would have thought you'd be doing well to break one adjusting your outhaul

my point was if you make the adjustment after increasing the outhaul you're putting less stress on that clamp.
AUS4
AUS4
NSW
1296 posts
NSW, 1296 posts
11 Feb 2021 9:06pm
You should only adjust the bottom 3 battens of a NP sail while the sail is unrigged.
Try a cable tie over clip and under batten.
musorianin
musorianin
QLD
597 posts
QLD, 597 posts
11 Feb 2021 8:36pm
Have you tried inner tube?
tonyk
tonyk
QLD
621 posts
QLD, 621 posts
11 Feb 2021 10:48pm
I have a couple of spares you can have (I'm South of Brisbane) if want them PM me.

BTW- that sail 'going by colour in pic' is many years old
Manuel7
Manuel7
1349 posts
1349 posts
12 Feb 2021 12:06am
choco said..
Did it break on its own or were you applying batten tension?




Either the power of the white water (got smashed) or the clip hit the reef.
The rest survived :D !



Mark _australia said..
If you just put the rope over the end you won't be able to apply enough tension. The camming action of the plastic bit applies all that pressure




It's possible when there's no tension in the sail. The rope can be pried over the batten screw.



AUS4 said..
You should only adjust the bottom 3 battens of a NP sail while the sail is unrigged.
Try a cable tie over clip and under batten.




Two great tips!
Proper batten tension is generally tuned when the sail is fully rigged but... with the neilpryde clip design, it puts too much tension on the clip and I heard of people breaking them while force closing them rigged.

While when tension is released, they can be clipped shut much more easily. So one may need to add and release tension to fine tune adjustments.

Without a donor clip, I could zip tie the rope around the tensioner screw to keep it in place, maybe wrap the whole thing with some sticky tape to protect from abrasion...



musorianin said..
Have you tried inner tube?




Funniest comment ever :D ! Sadly I couldn't seem to think of a way to use it here, you?

In the end, I had 3 spare clips, I figured my sail is on its last legs and will provide two more clips (3 battens only!!) as a donor for the next neilpryde (if I get one). So I sliced open one of my donor batten clip and we'll be replacing it again.

EDIT: Filling in the gap, gluing in a sliver of sorts, might increase its structural integrity to protect from future stress.

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