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junior freestyle

QLD

546 posts

junior freestyle

QLD, 546 posts

10 Dec 2005 3:50pm

i AM JUST GETTING INTO THE WAVE SCENE AND WAS WOUNDERING IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIAL TRICKS OR TIPS TO NOT BREAKING STUFF, AND THE GENERAL BEING GOOD IN WAVES.

THANKS JF

SOORY ABOUT THE caps

hardman

1116 posts

hardman

1116 posts

10 Dec 2005 1:59pm

quote:
Originally posted by junior freestyle

i ARE ANY SPECIAL TRICKS OR TIPS TO NOT BREAKING STUFF,

Don't fall in!!

kitingkook

NSW

109 posts

kitingkook

NSW, 109 posts

10 Dec 2005 5:13pm

If you do fall in never let your mast point towards the beach, always make sure it is pointing towards the wave. This tip will save you thousands in broken masts.

hardman

1116 posts

hardman

1116 posts

10 Dec 2005 4:22pm

quote:
Originally posted by junior freestyle

iAND THE GENERAL BEING GOOD IN WAVES.

THANKS JF

SOORY ABOUT THE caps

Mindset is very important!

Don't worry about breaking stuff, just go for it. You need lots of Time on Water (TOW), ask for advice on the beach, look at the good guys (avoid looking at me), get out there and Go for it! We all break stuff, it's part of the deal with wavesailing! KK's advice about pointing mast into wave is a good one for not breaking gear, and remember you are always better off breaking gear than breaking yourself, sometimes particularly in big surf, near shallow reef, let your gear get trashed and save yourself!!

rosey

NSW

575 posts

rosey

NSW, 575 posts

10 Dec 2005 8:25pm

amen to that hardboy...jus get as much speed as you can, and hit the the lip as hard as you can, and you will go BIG! this was the advice i got given on my first run at the beach, and since then jus got tips off all the other sailors...the coaching sessions at our wavesailing events also helped alot...

Haircut 4000

QLD

340 posts

Haircut 4000

QLD, 340 posts

10 Dec 2005 11:57pm

and don't eat yellow snow

fish

155 posts

fish

WA, 155 posts

10 Dec 2005 10:02pm

bend-z-kneez

greenleader

QLD

5283 posts

greenleader

QLD, 5283 posts

11 Dec 2005 12:06am

remember, all maneouvres derive from the gybe.

ducati

QLD

474 posts

ducati

QLD, 474 posts

11 Dec 2005 9:24am

Lotsa wheeties for breakie

Juice

280 posts

Juice

WA, 280 posts

11 Dec 2005 9:43am

Buy strong equipment. Part of the learning curve involves being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

nebbian

6277 posts

nebbian

WA, 6277 posts

11 Dec 2005 10:59am

Don't go out into waves that you wouldn't feel comfortable swimming in. Same goes for depth... if you're not happy swimming in mast high waves out the back, then don't sail into them for goodness sake!!

The surf will smack your bum hard if you aren't confident in the conditions minus board+sail.

Speaking from my own experience

, I've got a lot more respect for the surf now... also be absolutely sure you can waterstart if the wind drops a bit!! Had to wrap the uphaul rope around my foot and swim back into shore last time I went out

Saw a guy last week who obviously wasn't confident sail into some decent surf, got to the outer breakers and snapped a universal joint. He didn't have his safety rope connected to both halves of the UJ, so his board surfed the wave in while he was left hanging onto his sail in 5foot whitewater, 100m out from the beach. What would you do in that situation?

ju_724

231 posts

ju_724

231 posts

11 Dec 2005 12:43pm

ahh thats what that piece of rope is for

is it just there to keep sail and board together or can u actually sail when the uj has snapped just using that piece of rope ???? eeuuuuuuurrgh wouldn't like to try it

RAL INN

2897 posts

RAL INN

SA, 2897 posts

11 Dec 2005 3:30pm

I suppose that advise relates to formula gear.

Don't bother trying under 2m wave hieght and pick onshore conditions and a beach break.

rig a sail 2 sizes smaller than what you think.

That should give you a taste of the fun ahead.

And don't listen to any advise, it's all lies.

you could also just read the instructions that come with your wave sail.

Best winds
Tony L

PS: and pinch a wave off waveslave as you first attempt.

rosey

NSW

575 posts

rosey

NSW, 575 posts

11 Dec 2005 4:38pm

ye you can sail with the uni broken if there is 2 bits of rope there, i didnt even know that my uni was broken till i went in at the end of the day!!!

whyner

NSW

762 posts

whyner

NSW, 762 posts

13 Dec 2005 1:36pm

Some simple advice for waveriding is, move your back hand back on your bottom turn and to original position for top turn. It will help you to start with.

Always sail between the flags so the lifeguards can watch you.

Pugwash

7733 posts

Pugwash

WA, 7733 posts

13 Dec 2005 11:08am

quote:
Always sail between the flags so the lifeguards can watch you.

curac

1160 posts

curac

WA, 1160 posts

13 Dec 2005 11:25am

for you first time wait untill it is a huge day.

qwerty

NSW

807 posts

qwerty

NSW, 807 posts

13 Dec 2005 2:28pm

and if you're going to sail at Cronulla, don't take your car.

NotWal

QLD

7436 posts

NotWal

QLD, 7436 posts

16 Dec 2005 11:34am

JF,

These guys are trying to kill you.

Some basic advice:-
1) When in the water getting clobbered, always hold onto the end of your mast on the waveward side.
2) Learn to waterstart quickly from any position - clew first, fin first, light wind waterstart .... etc
3) Get your chicken gybe and quick tack working.
4) When coming in to shore come in on the back of a wave to save your fin.
5) Always, on entry and exit, hold your gear above the break. ie don't let your gear get washed because it can be really hard to get it out again.
6) Don't take avice from the dorks on this forum.

Haircut

QLD

6491 posts

Haircut

QLD, 6491 posts

16 Dec 2005 9:19pm

quote:

Always sail between the flags so the lifeguards can watch you.

funny things flags?! The harder you try to avoid them, the more you end up between them

hombre

5 posts

hombre

SA, 5 posts

16 Dec 2005 11:56pm

The alley is good for learning on a small day, especially in a northerly when you can do runs along the waves. You can do a bit of wave riding and work on some turns, but if it gets a bit heavy you can easily head downwind.

And there's no shame in the alley triathlon (ride, walk, swim - you'll understand when you do it). I think we've all been there.

greenleader

QLD

5283 posts

greenleader

QLD, 5283 posts

17 Dec 2005 12:12am

some more than others!

junior freestyle

QLD

546 posts

junior freestyle

QLD, 546 posts

17 Dec 2005 10:14am

Thanks everyone for ur input SOME of that should give me a real shot in the arm/confidense boost.
Hope to see u guys out there JF

scatterbrain

1 posts

scatterbrain

1 posts

20 Dec 2005 11:50am

Hi Everyone,
I am Probably in the wrong thread, but if i dont get any replies i will post my own.

The reason why I wanted to learn windsurfing was to sail the waves, but i have had a few obstacles on my way there (football injuries mainly)

I sold my F2 Lightning (race longboard) which I was using to learn the basics because I was a bit heavy for it (it was a small model) and have not yet replaced it.

Does everyone who wavesails live near the beach? because I'm not sure if I should invest huge amounts of cash if there is no way I will be positioned well enough to sail.

I will need to learn to carve and waterstart well before I even consider wavesailing, so a relatively high volume freeride board is on the cards before then, bbut i just wanted to hear a few peoples stories on how they got into wavesailing, because I watch the taranaki clips on deepfriied.tv and it looks amazing!

thanks guys
Tom

qwerty

NSW

807 posts

qwerty

NSW, 807 posts

20 Dec 2005 3:24pm

Waterstarting is essential. being able to gybe is not.

I used to sail out the back, attempt to gybe, fall in, flip the sail and waterstart. While you're frustrating yourself learning to gybe wave gear, you may as well enjoy all the other aspects of wave sailing.
If you can balance well enough to get out through the waves then give it a go. Just start with small surf.
I know guys who learned to loop before they could gybe. Just do what you can as soon as you can.

And it doesn't matter where you live. If you are keen enough to drive to the beach then do it. Some guys drive a long way to sail. Its worth it.

Stick with it. You'll love it
Good luck.

decrepit

12872 posts

decrepit

WA, 12872 posts

20 Dec 2005 9:49pm

quote:
Originally posted by scatterbrain

The reason why I wanted to learn windsurfing was to sail the waves,

I will need to learn to carve and waterstart well before I even consider wavesailing,

If you've riden surfboards before, Querty's right, waterstarting's the main thing, but you don't need to be brilliant at it, (in small surf any way). you'll soon get the hang of what to do with the sail on a wave, the board is almost the same.

greenleader

QLD

5283 posts

greenleader

QLD, 5283 posts

21 Dec 2005 12:00am

you just have to want to do it.

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