mast foot position

> 10 years ago
Reply
Register to post, see what you've read, and subscribe to topics.
joe windsurf
joe windsurf
1482 posts
1482 posts
6 Feb 2012 1:06pm
i tend to move my larger sails up/forward and back for smaller sails
in the mast track that is
then i read about a formula sailor stating:
"The general rule of thumb is that the bigger the sail, the further back it is positioned on the board. Bigger sails weigh more and tend to settle the nose of the board and are often sailed with larger fins which have the same effect. Smaller sails weigh less and especially when combined with smaller fins tend to unsettle the nose of the board so moving the mast forward will counteract that trend."

is it different for formula or ???

and yes i am aware that some people just keep it @ 135 cm
kato
kato
VIC
3527 posts
VIC, 3527 posts
6 Feb 2012 6:18pm
joe windsurf said...

i tend to move my larger sails up/forward and back for smaller sails
in the mast track that is
then i read about a formula sailor stating:
"The general rule of thumb is that the bigger the sail, the further back it is positioned on the board. Bigger sails weigh more and tend to settle the nose of the board and are often sailed with larger fins which have the same effect. Smaller sails weigh less and especially when combined with smaller fins tend to unsettle the nose of the board so moving the mast forward will counteract that trend."

is it different for formula or ???

and yes i am aware that some people just keep it @ 135 cm

Sounds about right to me. Just adjust the track untill the board flies across the water.Too far back the board will spin out ,too far foward too much water line

joe windsurf
joe windsurf
1482 posts
1482 posts
6 Feb 2012 7:48pm
kato:
i am NOT questioning the idea of moving the mast foot
just the WHEN
do larger sails typically go forward or back on the track for you ??
Brett Morris
Brett Morris
NSW
1204 posts
NSW, 1204 posts
7 Feb 2012 11:19am
Moving your mast track 1cm makes a huge difference to performance and comfort on any board.

There are basic rules, but there is nothing better than TOW and knowing your own gear.
Above is dead right: Move mast track back until board is flying on fin, then move forward slightly to settle things down.

Don't forget that boom height, mast track positions, harness line length and fins all work together. Hence the reason you need to know your own gear....

Pretty useless information really...sorry..
joe windsurf
joe windsurf
1482 posts
1482 posts
7 Feb 2012 10:17am
thank you for the "useless" information - no info is useless !!
generally my large sails are further up than back
THIS contradicts what the formula sailor was suggesting

that's all

just more useless info - i guess {sorry }
AUS1111
AUS1111
WA
3621 posts
WA, 3621 posts
7 Feb 2012 11:38am
I can't see any reason why you would move the mast track forward or back for a bigger sail.

If the track is too far forward the board will want to keep bearing away, and if it's too far back the board will rear up on the fin. You should only have to move it small amounts at a time until it feels just right.

A couple of things that would cause you to change the mast track position would be using a weed fin (which moves the centre-of-lateral reistance further back), or adjusting the boom height.
firiebob
firiebob
WA
3182 posts
WA, 3182 posts
7 Feb 2012 1:54pm
Chris & Brett +1

I think it's a balance between board, fin and sail size, when that's right I think the mast base position will stay the same for each sail. That's what works for me any way, right or wrong. I use two sails with my favourite slalom board and have the base in the same position for both, back a little from centre of track.
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
7 Feb 2012 9:27pm
i'm the same as firiebob (and i think the back half improves my early planing and accelleration), but most folk i sail with have their mast bases in the forward half of the track for almost all their various sized sails

it's a mystery
kato
kato
VIC
3527 posts
VIC, 3527 posts
7 Feb 2012 11:15pm
Try this ....the center of effort on a 7.5 will be different to a 5.0 so would you have the same position on the mast track. For me no,the large sail is further forward than the small sail. The C of E difference between 2 sail sizes is very small so you may not notice any board trim changes.If i ran the 7.5 at the 5.0 mast setting the fin would keep spinning out from too much back foot preasure.
A formula board behaves and drives differently to a short board so it makes sense to use the weight to control the nose.
Please note that i use a "Barn Door" very rarely and am much happier on a short board in 12kt or surfing
paddymac
paddymac
WA
943 posts
WA, 943 posts
7 Feb 2012 10:24pm
joe, I have read Slowboat talking about moving his mast step back for bigger sails based on the weight argument. He knows a thing or two about trim
Please Register, or first...
Topics Subscribe Reply

Return To Classic site 😭
Or... let us know if a problem, so we can tweak! 😅