luff sleeve repair advice

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shuee
shuee
WA
114 posts
WA, 114 posts
7 Jan 2006 5:57am
is it possible to repair a small (size of a five cent) hole in a luff sleeve yourself without seeing a sail repairer?

Any advice would be appreciated!

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mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
7 Jan 2006 8:55am
It is possible, wherabouts is the hole in the sleeve? Question being how do you think you would go about the repair, and is it worth attempting yourself when it should be no more than a $20-30 job by a sail repairer.
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
7 Jan 2006 11:23am
try gaffa tape for temp/permanent repair
sail repairers hate the stuff though
yoyo
yoyo
WA
1646 posts
WA, 1646 posts
7 Jan 2006 12:28pm
Shuee, if you can get some sticky sail material it holds pretty good but if it is one of those canvas luff tushies you'd be out of luck.
rosey
rosey
NSW
575 posts
NSW, 575 posts
7 Jan 2006 4:15pm
if its only the size of a 5 cent peice, screw fixing it..when u say luff SLEEVE i take it you meant where the mast goes[}:)] my 5.2 has many holes in it, affects the performance in no way watsoever
eckas
eckas
NSW
323 posts
NSW, 323 posts
7 Jan 2006 11:43pm
I've just tried repairing/strengthening my luff sleeve with a combination of adhesive sail repair tape, and a flexible adhesive glue designed for wetsuit repairs. I smeared the glue around the weak point (in this case, the line of stitching that the mast was threatening to punch through when threading the mast), applied the tape, then smeared more glue around the perimeter of the tape, in the hope that it will improve the adhesion to the underlying luff material. Will advise how this goes.
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
8 Jan 2006 1:16am
If the wetsuit glue doesn't hold then I was told to put the sticky sail repair cloth over the hole, then iron it on using the middle heat setting on a clothes iron.

Put a rag each side of the sail repair when you do this, you don't want local heating, you want to heat everything up evenly so that the sticky glue melts.

Take with a pinch of salt, it was a kitesurfing repair place that told me this...
rdunlop
rdunlop
WA
57 posts
WA, 57 posts
8 Jan 2006 8:10am
Most sailmakers (yachts) sell 'sticky back' Kevlar in rolls or sheets. It's the same stuff they use to make the sail numbers and is ideal for emergency repairs at sea. I always keep a couple of meters handy when travelling to remote spots. The repair is actually stronger than the monofilm and I often put small pieces over cracks and weak spots on my windsurfing sails. Like all 'stick on material' it doesn't go well over seams etc. but would be fine on a luff pocket hole. Put a piece on each side of the hole if you can get inside the pocket.

Cheers,

Bob Dunlop
rustbucket
rustbucket
NSW
290 posts
NSW, 290 posts
8 Jan 2006 8:29pm
that tape reminds me of a fibreglas tape sold often in racing radio control car shops [stylus the brand name,1 inch wide roll]
it is made up of fibregass strands with very sticky adhessive on otherside,you cant rip it by hand,and it sticks very well,its often used to hold together broken bits on racing radio controll cars and such, these cars experience more force on them then any real car.
If this proves to be waterproof it would be stronger than needed,and available in rolls about as wide as wide electrical tape....it may be similar to the idea of kevlar tape but may be easier to find
just another idea to throw around?????????????????????????
Fieldie
Fieldie
WA
361 posts
WA, 361 posts
8 Jan 2006 10:28pm
Stuart Bell sails had time to repair my Severne's luff sleeve - 2 x 2 foot tears that turned into 1 x 4 foot tear one day - for $40. Nice job! STOKED!!!
mikeAUS146
mikeAUS146
WA
111 posts
WA, 111 posts
11 Jan 2006 8:35pm
my severne is also starting to rip. They are idiots for making stitching along the leading edge of the mast sleeve. its gonna all go soon. Did stuart bell fix it right up so it wont happen again? im thinking of taking my severne S1 in for repair.
Fieldie
Fieldie
WA
361 posts
WA, 361 posts
13 Jan 2006 12:02am
I think so Mike. He's placed a patch strip down the outside of the luff sleeve, starting about 30-40mm down from the "cuff" the mast tip goes into.
The weaved material seems light and strong - much better than the original fabric it covers. It looks like it might have even been glued before being stiched.
I reckon if it tears again, it would go at the edge of the repair.
Repaired on time too. They have got me from now on for all sail repairs!!!! Professional performance!!

Any idea how you gain the seam skills?? What a hobby! I can't imagine how much satisfaction would it give to sail what you have designed & stitched??? Are materials like x-ply expensive/accessible? I may need to cut a hole in the shed's concrete floor. Hmmmmmm...
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
13 Jan 2006 9:26am
quote:
Originally posted by mikeAUS146

my severne is also starting to rip. They are idiots for making stitching along the leading edge of the mast sleeve. its gonna all go soon. Did stuart bell fix it right up so it wont happen again? im thinking of taking my severne S1 in for repair.



I liked 3 piece luffs for that exact reason, not that its practical for most raf sails. Strange that this never really used to happen, surely stitching and material placement is getting better not worse. Maybe its due to more curved luffs or tighter luff sleeves. My north starting to do this and i'm pretty careful threading the mast in.
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
13 Jan 2006 9:34am
kecksoff, local sailmaker here (Andrew) was making sails. I think it cost around $400-450 to make a sail, xply etc is cheap (provided you dont use hi tech ones) but the battens and batten ends are hellishly expensive driving the cost of the sail up. If you are keen it would probably be cheaper to buy a trashed sail and use all the useful bits out of that.

He has now defected to WA and is the ideal person to talk to about this if you can ever track him down. He was trying to get similar work over there somewhere last I heard.

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