late planing , wobbly gybe exits..?

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sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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17 Sep 2010 8:42am
I went out yesterday in gusty 10 -15kt WSW and thought I dont seem to get going as well as I used to + I seemed to find gybing more critical.. [}:)]It finally gelled..the extra few kilos Ive put on over winter ( + the extra c 1kg of the full camel back) ..Now I dont think I could get motivated to lose weight for looks but if it gives me more planing time on the water bring it on! I think I'll go and do an hours walk after brekkie..and maybe not eat that chocolate cake today..or maybe not..
flipper4444
flipper4444
VIC
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17 Sep 2010 5:25pm
but least you will be the fastest chick on the water, cause speed junkies are big blokes. I eat heaps of donuts, cause kato told me if you want to be fast you need to bulk up like spotty
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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17 Sep 2010 5:43pm
I reckon you should be able to alter your weight to suit the conditions..less for light winds and heavier for gales..
KenHo
KenHo
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17 Sep 2010 6:49pm
A wise man told me last year that 5kg is worth a half a meter of sail and 10L of board.
No doubt there is an ideal range for this formula, but between 65-85 or 90kg, it's probably a reasonable estimation.
Which is why I am intent on losing 5-6kg. I have 2 off, just have another 3 or 4 to go.

nebbian
nebbian
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17 Sep 2010 8:09pm
KenHo said...

A wise man told me last year that 5kg is worth a half a meter of sail and 10L of board.
No doubt there is an ideal range for this formula, but between 65-85 or 90kg, it's probably a reasonable estimation.
Which is why I am intent on losing 5-6kg. I have 2 off, just have another 3 or 4 to go.


Hmmm well that's interesting. I can honestly say that I can do this experiment properly, as I've recently lost around 10 kg.

So last weekend I was on a 5.2, and I did notice the difference, but I wouldn't say that it was equivalent to me being on a 6.2 at my old weight. More like a 5.7 at my old weight.

And my board, although it was definitely floatier, wasn't 20 litres floatier, at least it didn't feel like it! More like 10 litres floatier, which makes sense when you think about it.

So I'd say that 5 kg body weight would be more like .25 square metres of sail, and 5 litres of board.

It definitely makes a difference though, not least when you're scooting around the mast in a tack! It also makes a difference when trying to plane in marginal conditions

Good luck with the weight loss, it's well worth the effort.
KenHo
KenHo
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18 Sep 2010 7:55am
What you have noticed makes more mathematical sense.
I'm not really too fat, but 75 is a better fighting weight than 80 and I was more like 82-83, which is too chubby.
I think 5kg will make a big difference to the way my gear feels at this weight, esp on the 92L wave board and a 5.8.
Maybe that's a better way to think of it.
If a board/rig is marginal, then 5kg feels like a 1m/10L difference.

I just need to get on the water. I've been cycling and doing heaps of other exercise, but at some point, "training" exercise just gets so freaking boring and pointless.
Waiting4wind
Waiting4wind
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18 Sep 2010 11:26am
So we should lose a few kg's in summer just by not wearing a wetsuit and maybe an ultra light full carbon board on the shopping list.....he says while scoffing down a burger
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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19 Sep 2010 4:37pm
sboardcrazy said...

I went out yesterday in gusty 10 -15kt WSW and thought I dont seem to get going as well as I used to + I seemed to find gybing more critical.. [}:)]It finally gelled..the extra few kilos Ive put on over winter ( + the extra c 1kg of the full camel back) ..Now I dont think I could get motivated to lose weight for looks but if it gives me more planing time on the water bring it on! I think I'll go and do an hours walk after brekkie..and maybe not eat that chocolate cake today..or maybe not..


Yeah right.. I didnt go on that walk..I ate the choc cake & I ve just been visiting friends who stuffed me full of food..even the 2 days of cycling wont help that.. I reckon Ive put on 2kgs..This week!
Leman
Leman
VIC
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19 Sep 2010 11:38pm
I'm just under 90kg, while a friend I regularly sail with is about 65kg. We find we are generally on par when he uses a sail 1metre smaller and a board 10-15L less.

If I use a 6.3M he is using a 5.2M, however this difference shrinks as the wind gets bigger. When I am on a 4.7 he is on a 4.2.

For windsurfing only (or perhaps as a jockey), I would prefer to be the lightweight, because I've had to upgrade to all carbon booms so they don't keep breaking on me, whereas aluminium seems fine for him.
nfi
nfi
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20 Sep 2010 12:16pm
nebbian said...

KenHo said...

A wise man told me last year that 5kg is worth a half a meter of sail and 10L of board.
No doubt there is an ideal range for this formula, but between 65-85 or 90kg, it's probably a reasonable estimation.
Which is why I am intent on losing 5-6kg. I have 2 off, just have another 3 or 4 to go.


Hmmm well that's interesting. I can honestly say that I can do this experiment properly, as I've recently lost around 10 kg.

So last weekend I was on a 5.2, and I did notice the difference, but I wouldn't say that it was equivalent to me being on a 6.2 at my old weight. More like a 5.7 at my old weight.

And my board, although it was definitely floatier, wasn't 20 litres floatier, at least it didn't feel like it! More like 10 litres floatier, which makes sense when you think about it.

So I'd say that 5 kg body weight would be more like .25 square metres of sail, and 5 litres of board.

It definitely makes a difference though, not least when you're scooting around the mast in a tack! It also makes a difference when trying to plane in marginal conditions

Good luck with the weight loss, it's well worth the effort.


nebbian, I've also lost heaps of weight. I lost it quickly and haven't been sailing since (training for the Busselton ironman in dec, so no sailing until then but I have 2 windsurfing trips to WA booked for late Dec/Jan and seriously hanging out for them!). I am expecting the weight loss to make a big difference to things like planning, tacking, etc, but did you find it more difficult to handle your board?
I was 93kg sailing a goya one 85lt which was great, but now i'm 79kg and thinking that I might have to get a smaller board. What's your thoughts?
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
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20 Sep 2010 12:56pm
Leman said...

I'm just under 90kg, while a friend I regularly sail with is about 65kg. We find we are generally on par when he uses a sail 1metre smaller and a board 10-15L less.

If I use a 6.3M he is using a 5.2M, however this difference shrinks as the wind gets bigger. When I am on a 4.7 he is on a 4.2.

For windsurfing only (or perhaps as a jockey), I would prefer to be the lightweight, because I've had to upgrade to all carbon booms so they don't keep breaking on me, whereas aluminium seems fine for him.


That is an advantage as I've never had any breakages ( other than a 25 year old boom but that was just age).
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