We all know you take bigger airs kitesurfing.

Why is wind surfing better.

Why should i try windsurfing when I already do kitesurfing.

First post a troll?

Nice going Davo, stay off the Boags.

Give him a break, he's obviously spent his teenage years being rellentlessly buggered by his uncles and father. Probably doesent know any different.

I am interested in windsurfing because i live on the derwent river and there isn't realy any where sutibal to lanch my kite. Do you think it would be a bad idea to buy a small wave board to start off on its just a big bourd would be a jobe to carry down.

A small wave board is very hard to learn on, not impossible if you've got steady 15knt - 20knt winds. Cause you have to learn to waterstart first, (if you're young, fit and keen, this is the fastest way anyhow). It is easier with a board that's at least 20 litres more than your kg weight, (has a bit more stability, and doesn't sink as much when you try to get up).

I wouldn't recommend teaching yourself, there's so many things you can do wrong, and end up just getting totally frustrated.
Having somebody there with you, who knows what they are doing and giving advice, is almost a must.

Another thing, why a wave board??? Don't know the Derwent, but does it have waves? If you're not planning to get into waves, a fast freeride would probably be better.

And when you say "small waveboard", by that I think my body weight in litres or less, but other people may think differently, depending on their local conditions. It's all relative.

Something smells fishy

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Originally posted by davidf

What sort of size sale would best soot a 75 liter board for 12 20 nots I weigh 55 kilo

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Hmm, off the top of my head I'd say 4.5, but it's only a guess, any light weights out there with advice????

I'm close to 70kg and for that range I use a 5.3, but I don't get planing until 15kn. 12 - 15 is for subplaning wave riding.

Just done some calculations, a 4.5 for you is equivalent to a 5.7 for me, on a bigger board I can just get planing with a slalom sail about that wind strength, and I can hang onto it to about 25kn.

A 4.7 for you is equivalent to a 6 for me, if it's a good stable sail that would give your wind range.

Perhaps not a troll, let's break the questions down...

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Originally posted by davidf

We all know you take bigger airs kitesurfing.

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I have seen the 'Tophat' Youtube vid, and I must admit, I've never seen a windsurfer 'hover' above trees either???

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Why is wind surfing better..

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Legitimate question? For me, I enjoy it, and want to progress (as have some friends of mine) into sailing in my latter years, ie; learning how to read the wind, etc. But for now, just enjoying the flat-water & chop (mid 30s beginner with footballer's knees, no big jumps for me!)

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Why should i try windsurfing when I already do kitesurfing.

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You don't have to, if you don't want to, but why not give another - outside, on-the-water, fun, fast, and extreme, sport a go??? I'd like to give kitesurfing a go one day, but there's only one guy here that does it (and he's a big bloke with a badge!!!)

Judging by the weight (55kgs), and the spelling/punctuation, this guy could either be -
(A) an uneducated troll.

(B) a 'kiter' who's just trying to stir the pot.

or (and I hope it's C)

(C) a legitimate kid wanting some advice.

Perhaps we should follow Decrepit's lead.....and "be nice, guys."

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Originally posted by davidf

thanx for the imfomation it sound as through a fast freeride may be better othough i am a keen surfer and i would like get out there in the waves. A freeride board i asumed was ushaly larger in aqivalant to a wave board and there for hader to take down

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There's some good 'cross' boards out there, freeride/freetyle/waves/speed. I can't give much advice on board size as I'm double your weight, although at 55kgs, I'd be looking at the smallest of the freeride-cross boards, the difference in weight to a wave of slightly less volume board might only be a kilo at the most, if you go for a 70lt or less, you'll possibly eventually 'get-it', but will probably take longer (if you don't give-up beforehand.)

He'd be better off using his time learning how to write properly. More people could understand his crap stirring then.

Windsurfing isn't better than kitesurfing any more than a saw is better than a chisel. They're different.

Windsurfing gear takes up a bit more space, and you probably need more of it than kiting gear, but then you can windsurf in tighter places and higher winds, and can safely setup, use, and pack up your gear by yourself from the first day. There's also much less risk of getting hung from a tree, another kiter, or the mast of a moored yacht if you're not kiting.

A lot of the good guys here kite when the wind is light, and windsurf when it cranks up and gets too scary for kiting. I've also met a guy who still kites in 30+ knots when the waves are over twice mast high..(no idea what kiting jargon is for that!)

There's something to be said for being able to let go of everything when you get it wrong and have it stop in the water not too far away.

If you're keen to try windsurfing as an option, see if you can find someone local to talk to - windsurfers are usually a pretty friendly bunch. Getting some rental gear for an afternoon is a good option too. You might discover that you hate not wearing your boardies on the outside!

Just make sure that the gear you try is suitable and set up properly, otherwise it can be nearly impossible to enjoy the experience.

Double mast high sounds way better than third of line high

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Originally posted by jonnywinner

but you will see this

www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=5145

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Yep. It takes the thrust of a Jet engine to get any speed out of an Ezzy!!!

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Originally posted by The Grinch

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Originally posted by jonnywinner

but you will see this

www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=5145

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Yep. It takes the thrust of a Jet engine to get any speed out of an Ezzy!!!

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Sad but true

My unclel has two sails and a boom mast that is in his shed in resnobal condition but about 15 years old. I'm not shore what the mast is made out of because i haven't had a good look but it is heavy do you think it would be a waist of time to get a newish board probably around 75 liter and use this rig?
I am thinking it will not peform well at all, and not realy be sutibal for water starting?