Wave sails that have a similar feel/performance to Severne Blades

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7176
7176
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15 posts
26 Apr 2019 7:47am
Hello,

Has anyone used a wave sail brand/model similar to Severne Blade? Gaastra ? I would be using sizes down from a 2018 Blade.

Thanks !
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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WA, 23647 posts
26 Apr 2019 9:51am
If you want to use smaller than a 2018, definitely go Gaastra as they don't make anything bigger then 2000
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
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QLD, 7436 posts
26 Apr 2019 8:04pm
It's not clear what you mean. Maybe you should rephrase your query.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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WA, 23647 posts
26 Apr 2019 7:14pm
I think mr first post is a bot..... the sentence is a bastardisation of something in another thread
forceten
forceten
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1312 posts
26 Apr 2019 9:13pm
7176 said..
Hello,

Has anyone used a wave sail brand/model similar to Severne Blade? Gaastra ? I would be using sizes down from a 2018 Blade.

Thanks !



The Blade is a 5 batten control oriented wave sail. I don't think Gaastra has one.

Without searching , the Ezzy Zeta would be contenders ,and Force 5, both to me are more power wave sails.

i heard a rumor that Gaastra were testing a prototype 2002m .
7176
7176
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15 posts
27 Apr 2019 1:47am
Sorry gang, a bit low in the tank when I posted. I am looking for a similar feeling sail as a next size down from a Severne 2018 Blade 5.0. Eager to hear of anyone's experience with another brand used in their quiver , say a 4.5 ish size.
Thanks !
Faff
Faff
VIC
1417 posts
VIC, 1417 posts
27 Apr 2019 11:16am
7176 said..
Sorry gang, a bit low in the tank when I posted. I am looking for a similar feeling sail as a next size down from a Severne 2018 Blade 5.0. Eager to hear of anyone's experience with another brand used in their quiver , say a 4.5 ish size.
Thanks !


If you like the way Blades feel, get another Blade of similar vintage (they were very different before the 2017 model year).
jn1
jn1
SA
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jn1 jn1
SA, 2753 posts
27 Apr 2019 4:13pm
7186, what masts do you have ?
BespokeSam
BespokeSam
NSW
17 posts
NSW, 17 posts
27 Apr 2019 8:13pm
Maybe check out the Point-7 Spy. It's a 5 batten power wave sail that's come out exceptionally well in all tests and is well priced.
I've used one in a 4.5 and it was very fast and stable.
7176
7176
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15 posts
28 Apr 2019 6:25am
Thanks for the replies thus far. I have 430 and 400 Severne g2s. The 2018 5.0 is a beautifully handling sail. Next size down is a 2013 4.5 Blade that I can't seem to get right. I've tried the NoLimitz hard top mixed length solution on the 4.5 without much success. (430 Sumo top 370 Reg bottom.). I weigh 90 kgs at 6'4". I also have NL 430 and 400

Faff , care to elaborate on the improvements post 17 models ?

Bespoke Sam, thanks for the suggestion. I'm in the US and don't think they are available here.
VIC, 112 posts
28 Apr 2019 9:21am
7176 said..
Thanks for the replies thus far. I have 430 and 400 Severne g2s. The 2018 5.0 is a beautifully handling sail. Next size down is a 2013 4.5 Blade that I can't seem to get right. I've tried the NoLimitz hard top mixed length solution on the 4.5 without much success. (430 Sumo top 370 Reg bottom.). I weigh 90 kgs at 6'4". I also have NL 430 and 400

Faff , care to elaborate on the improvements post 17 models ?

Bespoke Sam, thanks for the suggestion. I'm in the US and don't think they are available here.


The NoLimitz mast is a good choice, however you'll get better results if you stay with the SUMO rather than mixing sections with the softer Skinny.
Have you seen the Sailworks REVO (Revolution) performance is similar to your Blade - only better !!
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
28 Apr 2019 3:35pm
isn't the 4.5m blade recommended on a 370 mast? i can't find the spec sheet on it? have you tried it on the right mast?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
28 Apr 2019 1:57pm
^^^^ Good point.....


(nice to see its a real person too )

EDIT oops no, seems the older 4.5 is a 404luff and recommended for a 400 mast
Faff
Faff
VIC
1417 posts
VIC, 1417 posts
28 Apr 2019 6:33pm
7176 said..
Thanks for the replies thus far. I have 430 and 400 Severne g2s. The 2018 5.0 is a beautifully handling sail. Next size down is a 2013 4.5 Blade that I can't seem to get right. I've tried the NoLimitz hard top mixed length solution on the 4.5 without much success. (430 Sumo top 370 Reg bottom.). I weigh 90 kgs at 6'4". I also have NL 430 and 400

Faff , care to elaborate on the improvements post 17 models ?

Bespoke Sam, thanks for the suggestion. I'm in the US and don't think they are available here.


What year are the masts? AFAIK 2013 is when Severne switched to CC (without telling anyone). They were really HT before. Now they are CC (slightly towards the HT end).

It was a while ago, but I briefly had a 2013 3.7 Blade. Other Blades I've had - 2017 3.7/4.2/4.7/5.3, 2017 5.0 Pro. I don't really wave sail, mainly bump and jump. The 2013 felt like a small locked-in freeride sail with a deep, stiff sail draft. The 2017s felt way softer, flatter, with the dacron strip next to the luff sleeve allowing the sail to easily go flat or billow out. I believe the 2018/2019 Blades follow the same design program. They are very different to older Blades. The Pro Blades are very different again. The 5.0 Pro I had pulled like a truck. Too much for my 70 kg (I've moved onto 4-batten sails since).
Kai2000
Kai2000
WA
19 posts
WA, 19 posts
28 Apr 2019 7:30pm
7176 said..
Hello,

Has anyone used a wave sail brand/model similar to Severne Blade? Gaastra ? I would be using sizes down from a 2018 Blade.

Thanks !



I'd like to recommend the Sailworks Revolution Sails to you as an alternative to the Serverne Blade if that's what you're after. I've been using them for 4 seasons now and I have had a great experience with them. It has been perfect for me in onshore wave riding and bump n jump sailing. Its 5 battons give the Revo heaps of stability with lots of low down power making it a joy to sail in higher winds. Their range consists of 12 sizes from 3.0 up to 6.2. Their first year of production was 1994, so a proven model to test the time. The ideal mast is a RDM NoLimitz Sumo constant curve but you can also use a SDM mast.
Hope this helps, cheers Kai.


^ My 4.2 Revo in 30 knots at Coronation Beach, WA
R1DER
R1DER
WA
1474 posts
WA, 1474 posts
28 Apr 2019 8:34pm
At my 90kg I used to run a 4.2 blade on a 400 gorrilla and 400 sumo nil issues for me. I tried a sumo top and bottom combo of a 370 430 on my 5.0 blade it was awful.
Maybe you just got a badly cut or sown sail or is had a bad repair not lined up right. Get rid of it and buy another 4.5 Blade.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
28 Apr 2019 9:52pm
^^ Yup
strangely enough, the manufacturers mast works. and playing with combos may or may not be good.


So to the OP - do you want similar feel..... or work on same mast and feel similar?
Very different questions...

If you want similar feel, the NP Combat up to about 2015 is near enough in feel to Blades...... but needs different masts of course
If you have SV masts, just go buy a Blade.
Or are you saying you just can't get Blades there?
More info required....

Faff
Faff
VIC
1417 posts
VIC, 1417 posts
29 Apr 2019 11:38am
BTW, when I got the 2017 Blades, I had an old nolimitz skinny 400 (10 years old?) Worked fine with 4.7/5.3. Could not get the 4.2 to rig properly.
JEZ
JEZ
WA
395 posts
JEZ JEZ
WA, 395 posts
29 Apr 2019 9:30pm
RRD Vouge!!
7176
7176
15 posts
15 posts
30 Apr 2019 5:20am
Mark, trying to avoid buying another mast hence the original garbled post :). Quick look at the spec has the 4.5 at 403 luff length. Perhaps it will take the 400, tho Severne recommends the 370.. Faff, I'll keep a lookout for a 2017.
Kai, I agree the Revos are beautiful sails. I've owned them in the past. I will consider them

Currently the vendors in the US only have the 4.2, 4.7, Blade available. No RRD or Point 7 sail presence that I'm aware of

Again, thanks to all for your time and guidance. I appreciate it.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
30 Apr 2019 4:51pm
The 4.5 with that luff length shows rec mast 400, then another year it says 370/400. Either should work and the feel will be a little different but I'd not say its a drastic change that would make one hate the sail. Sometimes the boom measurement changes a lot with different mast length so keep fiddling.....
Rango
Rango
WA
853 posts
WA, 853 posts
30 Apr 2019 5:38pm
Never had the 2013 blade but used extensively the 2012 and 2014 in a 4.5 fantastic sails with great top end control always had to rig them atleast 2cm more than the specs as standard.
Prefered the 2014 to the 2012 but also to the 2017 in that size which seems more grunty.
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