The New Threat to Windsurfing Speed Record

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hardie
hardie
WA
4133 posts
WA, 4133 posts
24 Jan 2007 2:40pm
Check it:

www.hydroptere.com/accueil/images/videos/var/lang/FR/rub/19.html

Has the new nautical mile speed record, taken off Bjorn Dunkerbeck, and was doing 46.5 knots
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
24 Jan 2007 5:25pm
WOW. What a ride! (wouldn't want to bury the nose at that pace.)
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
24 Jan 2007 5:48pm
Note: if you click on the pommy flag to go to the english version, the video goes a bit longer with different angles. (at least it did on my computer - the video on the homepage kept stopping half-way through)
yoyo
yoyo
WA
1646 posts
WA, 1646 posts
24 Jan 2007 4:10pm
You are a bit ahead of yourself Hardie. They don't HAVE the new nautical mile record. They CLAIM to have beaten the old one ( the one by Finian under 40 knots). This is something that may get them offside with the WSSRC. The official body that oversees sailing records may be a bit miffed at their use of the word "record" as there doesn't seem to be any of the requirements met to claim a record.
It is a bit like Tilmann doing 52 knots with a kite saying he has broken the record. But he doesn't. Because he knows he needs a surveyed course, an an independent observer, notification of attempt, payment of fees etc etc.
Hydrotere's claimed "record" 46.5 PEAK speed is still slower than what Yellow Pages AVERAGED over 500m 15 years ago.
swoosh
swoosh
QLD
1929 posts
QLD, 1929 posts
24 Jan 2007 9:11pm
awesome.

perhaps not as fast as the yellow pages... but i would love to see them sail the yellow pages in those seas. would be a recipe for hilarity.

sick_em_rex
sick_em_rex
NSW
1601 posts
NSW, 1601 posts
25 Jan 2007 12:01pm
Actually their information is incorrect as they site Finian Maynard as being the current nautical mile record holder but in actual fact it is now Bjorn with a speed of 41.14 knots recorded at the 50knots challenge in Namibia late last year. As far as I am aware this record has been ratified.
Either way, this thing looked like it didn't even have it's sails fully flying so it looks like a foregone conclusion that it will eventually break the record/s once they get the right conditions and independent observers etc. Lets hope yellow pages can be resurrected and at least try to get the record back here in Aus. That is of course if one of the speed demons down Sandy Point way doesn't bag it first!!!
hardie
hardie
WA
4133 posts
WA, 4133 posts
26 Jan 2007 10:40pm
Latest Internet posting says, new peak of 47.2 knots with video to prove it??? Look at the water state, could any other craft, windsufers included do 47.2 knots in this sort of sea???

If it's fairdinkum we're gone??

Check it: www.hydroptere.com/index.php4?lang=EN
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
26 Jan 2007 11:00pm
Settle down Hardie,

They've got to do more than 48.7 knots over 500m, with an impartial official watching before it's the record.

But if they're doing high 40's in 25 knots of wind, imagine how quick they'll be in 30 or 35 knots...
sonic
sonic
QLD
756 posts
QLD, 756 posts
27 Jan 2007 9:22am
If i remember the yellow pages could only go in one direction and would of fell apart in those conditions,if as the video shows they can achieve speeds in chop they will be seriously faster if they can find flat,looks brilliant and scary.
pineson
pineson
NSW
14 posts
NSW, 14 posts
27 Jan 2007 11:12am
Here is latest update from the Ex-Yellow pages. Looks promising but there is plan for this year though!

http://www.macquarie.com.au/speedsailing/updates.htm

What is impressive about Hydroptere is that she is using such a heavily reefed sail in open sea. I am guessing that over the coming training runs the number of reefs in the sail will be reduced (time will tell). I am going to ask them to post GPS tracks.

TornadoALIVE
TornadoALIVE
NSW
45 posts
NSW, 45 posts
29 Jan 2007 2:07am
Just wait until Hydroptere finalizes sail choices and can get rid off some unnecessary drag such as furled headsails. When they decide on how much to reef the main sail down, they could also build a much shorter mast and a more efficient main that does not require reefs...... Then search for flatter water.

These guys have only scratched the surface of the boat's 500 meter record potential. This boat was designed to cross oceans at record speed in a variety of wind conditions. Hence why it is set up for several different head sails and a very large main which can be reefed as the wind increases. The scariest part about this boat and also the large Maxi Multies is their ability to maintain constant high speeds over long periods of time. They may very well be the first to break the 50 knot mark run but may also do so whilst not peeking past low 50s. This boat many years ago in it's infancy, posted a record breaking English Channel crossing at an AVERAGE of 39 knots.
TornadoALIVE
TornadoALIVE
NSW
45 posts
NSW, 45 posts
29 Jan 2007 2:36am
Maquarie Inovation has also been posting speeds in the 50s exiting their speed runs. They have no trouble reaching those speeds, however unfortunatly they can only enter the runs in the high 30s low 40s as they do not have the room at Sandy Point to wind the big fella up. They must also start their run up from behing a large sand dune.

quote:
And on Saturday 10 December, it looked as though finally they would get their chance. In 22 knots of wind, Macquarie Innovation accelerated from a standing start to be at 45.9 kts as it entered the 500m course. Expectations escalated rapidly, as those that were witnessing the run from the beach, knew that top speeds were not encountered until 3/4 of the way down the course. Unfortunately, the potential was never realised as a rare structural failure in the wing occurred less than 30m into the course. This fact was even more surprising considering that the team have been developing and building solid wing sails since the mid 1980's and this is the first structural wing failure of this nature to have occurred in 20 years.

The co-pilot of Macquarie Innovation, Tim Daddo, reports that "...while the damage looks spectacular, it was actually quite a "low-tech" item that failed and repair should not be too difficult. We're looking forward to rebuilding and being able to deliver a slice of world history to Australian shores soon."

Needless to say, the team are very disappointed as all could see that "world history", was less than 20 seconds away. Nevertheless, it is this fact that has inspired them to rebuild and return to complete what they refer to as "unfinished business".


greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
29 Jan 2007 1:57am
i once asked fred haywood "why can't a lighter rider with the right equipment go as fast as you?"

he replied "light guys fly"
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