Stupid Q. downhaul measurement

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McMahon
McMahon
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14 Sep 2008 12:30pm
When following the luff downhaul recommendations where do you measure from. I'm guessing the front of the pully closest to the mast extention.

mathew
mathew
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14 Sep 2008 12:51pm
The mast base should already have measurements on it... In any case, you measure from the joint between the extension and the base - which will probably be about 0.5cm shorter than the measurement to the pulleys. **

** which is nice as it allows for an extra half-cm for those big days.
McMahon
McMahon
VIC
129 posts
VIC, 129 posts
14 Sep 2008 4:24pm
I've got an old one without measurements. It mentions its overall length is 15.5. I assume now if I set it to its furtherest extension and pull the pullies right up to each other, it will measure 15.5cm but with the ruler against it, it measures out to about 18. Possibly a replacement pully. Its about stuffed so I'll grab a newie for the summer.

Thanks for the help
JayBee
JayBee
NSW
714 posts
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14 Sep 2008 9:10pm
If I am reading Mcmahon correctly we have not actually answered the question.
his question is about the luff length in relation to the mast + extension length.

Example:
My Pryde 11.6 says the recommended mast length is 596cm..
I have a 580 mast and an extension with 16cm extension on it.

Now - how far do I downhaul to ensure I get to the correct setting (as per the recommendations. I usually go block to block and it is good - so I assume that is what they mean by 596cm (block to block at the right mast + extension)

BUT I also have a Gaastra 9.8m sail. It rigs on a 520 + 8cm. I have the right mast and 8cm extension. But it does not downhaul block to block at those settings. If I did go block to block it would be WAY overdownhauled.

So what do I do for my Gaastra - my rule of thumb does not work at all. Also there is no marking on the Gaastra that tells me when to stop downhauling. If there were a marking on the luff that aligned with another on the base then it would be better.

So I dont have an answer - and dont believe the issue is a simple one at all. Manufacturers put the sail tack pulleys at different heights which means there is no consistant of getting a sail into the ballpark straight away.

BTW - thanks to those who helped me rig my sails and showed me how to rig for the visual clues rather then the numbers.

JB
The Windsurfing Shed
The Windsurfing Shed
NSW
294 posts
NSW, 294 posts
14 Sep 2008 10:21pm
If you want to take a look at this rigging guide (www.mauisails.com/files/products/sails/09RAF_guide.pdf), it might answer some of your queries re luff and measurements of recommended mast extension length.

This being said I am not sure it applies for other brands.

Cheers,
Remi
da vecta
da vecta
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2515 posts
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14 Sep 2008 11:41pm
no such thing as a stupid Q, just stupid people.

but in this case, its a very good Q.
McMahon
McMahon
VIC
129 posts
VIC, 129 posts
15 Sep 2008 5:45pm
Thanks Jaybee and Mathew,
The Maui Sails guide shows that the distance is measured from the mast to the front of the pully. You can see that if I measured from the actual sail in the illustration rather than the pully, there would be a few inches difference.

I don't really know the subtlies of sail shape so I mainly need to go of rigging recommendations. I'll get some lessons over the summer and that should also clear things up.

Thanks for the input.
sailquik
sailquik
VIC
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15 Sep 2008 7:26pm
A very good question!
The windsurfing sail manufacturers got together a few years ago and agreed on a standard method of measurement of luff length for windsurfing sails. I can't find the actual diagram I downloaded at the moment but the gist of it is from the tip of the sail luff pocket to the bottom of the tack pulley. When rigged perfectly by my standards this would mean the tack pulley and the mast base pulleys would be almost, or actually touching and a tape measure from the mast tip to the bottom edge of the tack pulley would give the same measurement as the luff rigging specification.
By the way, a recent issue of Boards (June 2008) tested RDM mast extensions and found that the measurements marked on almost all of them were wrong. Do not rely on the marked measurements without checking with a ruler or tape measure first.
Bondalucci
Bondalucci
VIC
1580 posts
VIC, 1580 posts
15 Sep 2008 7:36pm
McMahon said...

I've got an old one without measurements. It mentions its overall length is 15.5. I assume now if I set it to its furtherest extension and pull the pullies right up to each other, it will measure 15.5cm but with the ruler against it, it measures out to about 18.


- Too much personal information Macca,
Could you just tell us about your mast extension next time !!!!

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