Small children and windsurfing

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oli37
oli37
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30 Oct 2009 12:11pm
For those out there with young families, how do you handle the family life / windsurfing combination??? Does the missus give you a hard time? What have you done to compromise? How do I sell windsurfing as a family activity or am I just dreaming/screwed?
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
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30 Oct 2009 12:34pm
It's even harder if you are the missus!
Husbands dislike being left home with the kids even more than wives do!
So here's a female perspective as advice for you guys:

To sell windsurfing as a family activity -
Go on warm sunny days when it's not too windy to be unpleasant for the family on the beach -
Include a picnic. Help prepare the picnic. Go to a spot where there is a good playground.
Invest in some light wind freestyling equipment so you can still enjoy yourself.
Let the kids see you having fun.
Take them out for a ride on your board, play balance games on the board etc
Invest in a proper kids rig and board and be ever so patient.
Get together with other windsurfers with similar aged kids/ wives with similar interests.
Be extra loving/ affectionate/ helpful/ complementary * to your wife during and after windsurfing outings, and be supportive of her outside interests!

* women will do anything for a little romance...
It's true. We crave it. We are simple creatures who just want to be loved and appreciated. Why do you think chick flicks and daytime soaps are so successful?

now that's bound to spark some comment!

mineral1
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30 Oct 2009 12:35pm
Well the first positive, is that small kids usually like it when its not too windy. So morning sessions are the go. Keeps the kids out of Mums hair on Saturday mornings (her free time) and same for Sunday mornings, get up grab the young guns, and naf off down to river, or flat spot in ocean, to give her a great sleep in, and more self time. She will love you for it, and even join in for a morning by the beach with no afternoon sand drive seabreeze wind.
Works like a bloody charm
ka43
ka43
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3101 posts
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30 Oct 2009 3:41pm
Harp, whinge, moan, complain, look outside at every opportunity, appear totally distracted, dont concentrate on anything, keep opening curtains or venetians and peer meaningfully at trees/ sky etc so in the end the missus will have had enough and tell you to bugger off and if that doesnt work do what Mineral said

Seriously, be fair and communicate. Then lie![}:)]
russh
russh
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3027 posts
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30 Oct 2009 3:54pm
Make sure when you get back they all get special attention - then they'll want you to go more often - and do a deal - or give them the alternative that you will take up smoking drinking and goin to the pub each night. eventually they understand or they'll leave you!!!
divaldo
divaldo
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30 Oct 2009 4:10pm
I have no idea what you are talking about!
evlPanda
evlPanda
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30 Oct 2009 5:14pm
You need to organise a baby-sitter and/or take the little one(s) for adventures yourself, preferably in the morning before the breeze kicks in.

Personally I've shipped a mother-in-law across from Russia for summer. Yes really. It's going to be tough at times, but overall it's worth it.

Yeah, it's tough.
mkseven
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30 Oct 2009 4:37pm
Easy- address the problem at it's source, leave the wife

Shipping the mother in law FROM russia panda? shouldn't it be going the other way
mkseven
mkseven
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30 Oct 2009 4:43pm
Or if you're after a touchy feely answer then in short windsurfing is not a family activity for young families.

For every hour you put in on the water you should at least spend equal with the wife and that again with the kids. *edit* which is not inclusive of daily duties but quality time spent with them and then again you have to give partner time to herself just as you have had. Think smart and you will make it all fit, but as katapult said below my sailing was reduced in length to 1-2 hours rather than all day.

But option A is easier
AUS-057
AUS-057
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466 posts
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30 Oct 2009 4:46pm
I have a 9 week old baby girl. (Thats about as small as the children get!)

When we first found out that the missus was pregnant I really thought that I would not be sailing at all for the first 6 months whilst we were adjusting to the new addition. I have found that this is was not the case. Over the past 2 months I've managed to get out for a short sail most of the time. In fact, my missus has even told me a few times to get out and go for a sail. (I must have looked sad and longingly at swaying trees outside the windows!)

Here's a bit of advice for the first time parents.

Firstly I have been helping out as much as I can around the house. I have spent whole days on the weekend and late nights after work cleaning, washing or helping out in any way I can with the baby.

Secondly when its windy, don't disappear for the whole day. Its not that fair.. Just head out for a few hours at most and make the most of it whilst you are out. Don't sit on the beach for hours waiting for the wind.

Thirdly, organise the in-law's to come over to visit or go shopping... My last big windsurf was when the girls all went out on a shopping trip. They were out all day and I had a great sail... I will be encouraging this more of this in future...

Lastly as Windxtasy said, try to understand and be considerate of her needs...


Pointman
Pointman
WA
437 posts
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30 Oct 2009 3:01pm
Windxtasy said...

It's even harder if you are the missus!
Husbands dislike being left home with the kids even more than wives do!
So here's a female perspective as advice for you guys:

To sell windsurfing as a family activity -
Go on warm sunny days when it's not too windy to be unpleasant for the family on the beach -
Include a picnic. Help prepare the picnic. Go to a spot where there is a good playground.
Invest in some light wind freestyling equipment so you can still enjoy yourself.
Let the kids see you having fun.
Take them out for a ride on your board, play balance games on the board etc
Invest in a proper kids rig and board and be ever so patient.
Get together with other windsurfers with similar aged kids/ wives with similar interests.
Be extra loving/ affectionate/ helpful/ complementary * to your wife during and after windsurfing outings, and be supportive of her outside interests!

* women will do anything for a little romance...
It's true. We crave it. We are simple creatures who just want to be loved and appreciated. Why do you think chick flicks and daytime soaps are so successful?

now that's bound to spark some comment!




Good advice

I think giving the wife some time away from the kids in the morning is a great strategy, especially a sleep-in.

If you take the kids to the beach in the morning they'll be stuffed in the arvo and won't play up as much.

And you probably need to accept that you won't get out as much. I'm generally happy to sail one afternoon on the weekend and one or two arvo's after work. It's actually easier to go sailing after work than it is on weekends, cos you're already out.

And it helps if your partner has an interest of her own that she's passionate about. My wife is really into her yoga, so I can trade off yoga retreats and workshops for sailing trips and afternoons on the water.

Like most aspects of maintaining a harmonious relationship communication is the key.



pierrec45
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2005 posts
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30 Oct 2009 6:38pm
Personally I find what helps is 'reciprocity' : she needs to have a passion too - windsurfing or other. If she does, then she wants her own time and she will understand. It will be a trade-off.

If she doesn't, then you're toast. No amount of fawning and house chores will do it. It's gonna be one of those "you don't see me going around windsurfing" type of deal.

And if she doesn't have a passion and still sends you windsurfing all day, then the kids may end up looking like the milkman...

Back to kids, which really was the question: flat-water freestyle. I'd found a place where the kids could be in sight in a pram or picnic table. It's gotta be a Narrabeen kinda place, not a Wanda kind. I'd stick around very few hundred meters and practice all day. Suited me to the ground. When they were older (3-6yo), then pretend to coach me, would laugh at me falling, etc.

In lesser winds, I'd take them out on a longer board - ages 2-10 say. Was fun too.
Kids are seldom a problem.
stone
stone
WA
243 posts
WA, 243 posts
30 Oct 2009 3:52pm
Yes. Well.
Welcome to my life mate. Iam a single dad of 4. oldest is 8.
Started windsurfin when the ex wife dumped kids and took off 2 yrs ago.

I am fortunate that my new partner loves the beach but not so the wind.
To answear your question, I think you have to get them ( the wife ) involved.

I bought mine a kyack ,( she tried SUP). I stay on the beach building sandcastles and getting the kids on the big board while she's out then i go out and practice some light wind stuff.

When we get home she's rapt cause where done stuff together as a sort of family. then i get to out in the arvo when the wind is stronger.

Ultimatly the go is to get her windsufin.

For my last b'day present she gave me 10 " I.O.U. windsurf sessions." tokens. Cool as.
I also do all the bitch jobs around home as well as look after the 3 yr old. Thats my job, Iam their dad, but gets me sum brownie points.

Sumtimes I'll take kids with me after school to the beach and rig up and when the GF finishes work we meet up and she takes the kids and i can get a couple of hours in.

End of the day mate it's all about compromise.
I dont get to go out anywhere near the amount i'd like to. (or need to).

But when i do io love every moment, make the most of it and are always the last one out of the water.
Windsurfin has kept me sane and keeps me stoked to be alive..

Hope you can get out there..
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
4019 posts
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30 Oct 2009 4:11pm
mineral1 said...

Well the first positive, is that small kids usually like it when its not too windy. So morning sessions are the go. Keeps the kids out of Mums hair on Saturday mornings (her free time) and same for Sunday mornings, get up grab the young guns, and naf off down to river, or flat spot in ocean, to give her a great sleep in, and more self time. She will love you for it, and even join in for a morning by the beach with no afternoon sand drive seabreeze wind.
Works like a bloody charm



That sounds like a winner!
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
4019 posts
WA, 4019 posts
30 Oct 2009 4:16pm
Katapult said...

I have a 9 week old baby girl. (Thats about as small as the children get!)


Here's a bit of advice for the first time parents.

Firstly I have been helping out as much as I can around the house. I have spent whole days on the weekend and late nights after work cleaning, washing or helping out in any way I can with the baby.

Secondly when its windy, don't disappear for the whole day. Its not that fair.. Just head out for a few hours at most and make the most of it whilst you are out. Don't sit on the beach for hours waiting for the wind.

Thirdly, organise the in-law's to come over to visit or go shopping... My last big windsurf was when the girls all went out on a shopping trip. They were out all day and I had a great sail... I will be encouraging this more of this in future...

Lastly as Windxtasy said, try to understand and be considerate of her needs...





Well done!
You should be nominated for husband of the year!
Keep it up.
dan berry
dan berry
WA
2562 posts
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30 Oct 2009 4:39pm
Hang in there. We have a 11yr old boy and a 18mnth girl. Luckily Alex has just reached the golden age where he can surf and sail ( kinda) with me, as opposed to just hanging onto my leggy yelling me to paddle quicker cuz the sets are comin. We now get a surf every day for at least 2 hrs and get to go on boys weekends to comps and camping at gerroa ect. He even starting to ask about boys trip to Maui now. Only if your good Alex
Mike105
Mike105
59 posts
59 posts
30 Oct 2009 5:06pm
WindXtasy's comment about romance is spot on.

We have just returned from our second annual long romantic wave sailing weekend in Taranaki (Taranaki Wave Classic every Labour Day weekend). Left the kids (3 and 8) back home with Family.

Wife gets to laze around the beach, read books, listen to music that is not High School Musical 1,2 or 3, indulge in some photography and drawing and gets taken out for dinner each night.

Amazing how much extra time you have without kids. Meanwhile they get special treatment from the Grandparents or Aunt and Uncle and cousins so everyone has a great time.

Ohhh, and I of course get to pretend I can wavesail 3 or 4 days in a row (wind permitting - which didn't turn up till the last day this year).


In summer my wife windsurfs as well and we go down to the local river spot, take kids and bikes and take turns sailing and entertaining kids (and there should be a playground completed by this summer )

Also helps that Wifee knew I was obsessed before she married me
Bluedog76
Bluedog76
249 posts
249 posts
30 Oct 2009 10:11pm
Just posted re 50d camera - I have nothing to complain about now, my wife is getting into photography, which means while I am windsurfing , i am essentially practice for my wife taking photos. While all this is going on, my little guy (3yo) plays on the beach.

I agree with other comments posted so far, play with the kids while your other half gets to sleep in/do what she wants/etc and balance that out with getting time on the water. I even managed 2 weeks away to Lord Howe island earlier this year while she and the little guy visited relatives in WA......I am sure that this won't happen again..she will be coming in 2010.

.......and include the little guys/girls in the fun



rooster
rooster
WA
243 posts
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31 Oct 2009 5:53am
My wife is a golf player so on the weekend mornings has 18 holes and I look after the grommets. In the arvo when the breeze is in its play time for me

Also in winter she does not like to play when its wet and windy so I get it pretty good.

It is about comprimise. Give a little take a little
Krisiz1
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331 posts
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1 Nov 2009 11:40am
If you have a young family perhaps consider making windsurfing something to do only when the family is off doing their thing! Spend as much time with them as you can while you can. You can windsurf later. I have 3 grown up kids and 1 teenager who still lives at home (I think? well her laundry ends up here but we never see her). My wife has a career and works 50-60 hours a week and I have a job that I can work around the wind strength!! but I would give anything to have 4 little kids running around the house again. Believe me you can windsurf all you want when your kids grow up, and it won't be long!!
pierrec45
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2 Nov 2009 9:17pm
Have a look at this, put mouse over the shirt thing to see better.
Cute.

www.spreadshirt.fr/
LeStef
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2 Nov 2009 9:22pm
pierrec45 said...

Have a look at this, put mouse over the shirt thing to see better.
Cute.

Very good one Pierrec, it looks like a photo of our bedroom !


Windxtasy
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2 Nov 2009 6:37pm
Krisiz1 said...

If you have a young family perhaps consider making windsurfing something to do only when the family is off doing their thing! Spend as much time with them as you can while you can. You can windsurf later. I have 3 grown up kids and 1 teenager who still lives at home (I think? well her laundry ends up here but we never see her). My wife has a career and works 50-60 hours a week and I have a job that I can work around the wind strength!! but I would give anything to have 4 little kids running around the house again. Believe me you can windsurf all you want when your kids grow up, and it won't be long!!


So true.
The real joy is in doing things with the kids.
And that helps to build strong bonds that will get you through the teenage years as friends and have them still wanting to spend time with you even as adults.
They do grow up incredibly fast.

Krisis1, I wish you grandchildren who live nearby.

LeStef
LeStef
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514 posts
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2 Nov 2009 9:57pm
Windxtasy said...

Krisiz1 said...

If you have a young family perhaps consider making windsurfing something to do only when the family is off doing their thing! Spend as much time with them as you can while you can.

So true.
The real joy is in doing things with the kids.
And that helps to build strong bonds that will get you through the teenage years as friends and have them still wanting to spend time with you even as adults.
They do grow up incredibly fast.
Krisis1, I wish you grandchildren who live nearby.

I agree with you. My boys are growing fast. But they still have to like it. My 11 yold says that he would like to windsurf, but he doesn't like the wind in his face ! But I can see the athletic 2nd one starting seriously very soon. He loves coming on the board with me.
But until now, I was doing everything for the family till the last moment and I then go for my blast on the water, come back a happy man for everone
nick0
nick0
NSW
510 posts
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2 Nov 2009 11:50pm
i wash me mums car and unpack dishwasher to suck up and get her to drive me to beach :) and i shout her maccas on way home.:)
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
4019 posts
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2 Nov 2009 9:20pm
nick0 said...

i wash me mums car and unpack dishwasher to suck up and get her to drive me to beach :) and i shout her maccas on way home.:)


Sounds like a good deal to me!
Krisiz1
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WA
331 posts
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3 Nov 2009 7:46pm
Windxtasy said...

Krisiz1 said...

If you have a young family perhaps consider making windsurfing something to do only when the family is off doing their thing! Spend as much time with them as you can while you can. You can windsurf later. I have 3 grown up kids and 1 teenager who still lives at home (I think? well her laundry ends up here but we never see her). My wife has a career and works 50-60 hours a week and I have a job that I can work around the wind strength!! but I would give anything to have 4 little kids running around the house again. Believe me you can windsurf all you want when your kids grow up, and it won't be long!!


So true.
The real joy is in doing things with the kids.
And that helps to build strong bonds that will get you through the teenage years as friends and have them still wanting to spend time with you even as adults.
They do grow up incredibly fast.

Krisis1, I wish you grandchildren who live nearby.




Me too. They live 200 km's away! How am I gonna teach him 2 sail up there
Krisiz1
Krisiz1
WA
331 posts
WA, 331 posts
3 Nov 2009 8:52pm
Addendum to last post. Just heard grandson pooped on the sundeck then rode his bike through it today. I just happy being a lonely dude who only has to worry about if it's gonna be windy tomorrow or not!
Bluedog76
Bluedog76
249 posts
249 posts
3 Nov 2009 9:02pm
Aston at 3.5 hanging onto the boom and 3 in the pool. He has a good time.


malaika
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WA
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3 Nov 2009 9:57pm
windxtasy I like your suggestion of getting together with other windsurfing families- both my partner and I sail but have to take it in turns to go out while the other hangs out with the kids- with another family that would double your time on the water- one adult to look after the kids while the rest of you go out. plus the kids get some instant companians. If any other windsurfers in the perth area with young kids ( ours are 4 and 6) want to meet up pm me. Especially any other windsurfing mums who would like to meet up at the river after the school pick up!

I did once meet a salty old windsurfing couple with 3 now grown up kids who, when the kids were little, used to leave them on the beach with a flag which they would raise if they had a problem. Not sure we could get away with that now.....
pierrec45
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4 Nov 2009 1:52am
Bluedog76 said...

Aston at 3.5 hanging onto the boom and 3 in the pool. He has a good time.

Booms a bit high for him mate
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