Skinny mast Fat Boom Clamp

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Old Salty
Old Salty
VIC
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27 Jan 2009 10:43am
Down at Inverloch Australia Day with new(second hand Radz Spyro 12 mths old) 490 mast and decided to set up the 8.5mtr sail. Had a ball planning in 12 kts. Anyway.....

Found that the design of the Chinook boom clamp could not be tightened enough to hold the mast. So I am assuming the mast is a RDM. Had a spare rubber insert for the boom clamp which I used as a temporary device to hold boom in place. Not a long term solution as either end of the insert has lip that was getting in the way of the clamp. Apart from buying a new boom, which I do not want to do, has anyone got any smart solutions.

Krusty
Krusty
NSW
441 posts
NSW, 441 posts
27 Jan 2009 11:14am
Cant you just put one of the RDM adapters in. They usually are supplied with the mast but have bought them before from stores for about ten dollars. I use one with my fiberspar boom, works perfectly.
FlickySpinny
FlickySpinny
WA
657 posts
WA, 657 posts
27 Jan 2009 10:27am
Could you use your normal mast extension with the mast?

If you could, the mast isn't an RDM - you need special extensions for RDM masts.

I'd be very surprised if you'd bought a skinny without knowing about it - they're seriously different to a conventional mast, and hugely expensive as well... Ezzy RDMs cost about AUD700 for a 400cm at the moment.

As for the boom-clamp problem, maybe take it into SHQ or RPS and get the lads to have a look. SHQ have loads of Pryde pads that they pretty much giveaway, if you have indeed got an RDM.

ejmack
ejmack
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27 Jan 2009 1:14pm
Just quickly looking at it over the weekend Old Salty, I didn't think it was a "true" RDM/skinny....just slightly more reduced diameter than normal

Which doesn't help much.

Old Salty
Old Salty
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VIC, 1271 posts
27 Jan 2009 3:03pm
Hey Flicky Spinny

Up there for dancing. You are so right. My normal mast extension does fit. Therefore it is a SDM but it begs the question why do the mast manufacturers differ so much. Like we are taking at least 15mm dia different between the 2 masts
FlickySpinny
FlickySpinny
WA
657 posts
WA, 657 posts
27 Jan 2009 1:22pm
Hmmm - that's a big difference - especially considering that I believe there's only a couple of mast factories in the world. I've seen some pretty thin RDM mast pads before now (the Pryde ones are too thick for a 15mm difference I think)... in fact, Matt has a really thin pad that might do the trick if you could find something simillar.

Weird. Ah well, sounds like you've got a SRDM mast - Slightly-Reduced-Diameter-Mast - it's a new breed!

Good luck!
PhilJ
PhilJ
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27 Jan 2009 1:40pm
just as a bit of an aside you can get reduced diameter masts which use a standard extension. Not sure if they are still made but Naish used to make an extreme taper mast which was a normal extension but still required a boom shim as by the time it got to the boom height it was skinny diameter.
555
555
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555 555
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27 Jan 2009 1:45pm
Could it be a relation to the North 'Drop-Shape' ones..?

They're SDM at the bottom (where the extension goes) and then taper in to a smaller diameter than normal (but not quite RDM). 15mm difference could be about right..

Maybe a shim cut from a section of broken mast could work? Take a ring of mast, cut a 5-10mm section out of it lengthwise, slip it over your not-quite-skinny mast, and clamp it on hard with your boom clamp? Same theory as a collet.
Old Salty
Old Salty
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27 Jan 2009 4:29pm
Thanks for input guys.
It is not a North teardrop shape , Its a Radz Spyro 75% carbon 29 ICMS, the mast it is replacing is a Sailworks 100% carbon 29 ICMS. Dia difference between masts is 10 - 15mm at the boom connection area.
Old Salty
Old Salty
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1271 posts
VIC, 1271 posts
28 Jan 2009 9:44pm
Got down to SHQ this arvo in 43 c heat with boom and mast in hand. Found a suitable rubber sleeve to fit over mast and problem resolved. Thanks to all. Interesting observation is that the mast increases it dia dramatically in the last 450mm to fit a sdm mast extension. Thought I would pass it on for what it is worth.
mathew
mathew
QLD
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QLD, 2167 posts
28 Jan 2009 10:48pm
North masts definitely use a slightly smaller diameter for the SDM's - the theory is that you get a slightly softer mast and slightly stronger. Its not a bad idea - although I think it might be more of a marketing gimmick; I have one myself -> works well for giving that little bit of extra twist.

You shouldn't specifically need a shim, as your boom clamp should have enough adjustment to fit the mast.
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