Should I stay or should I go?

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Wet Willy
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10 Sep 2007 9:38am
OK, this is getting ridiculous...

Apparently I made a big mistake a couple of months ago. I gave up a good job, nice apartment, friends etc, to come to the Gold Coast in search of better wind. That was my one and only reason for coming. I knew I'd need to rely on others for transport, not having a drivers licence. So I thought, "I'll just put a little notice on Seabreeze.com - surely it'll there's a few windsurfers around who won't mind if I throw my gear in their car and tag along with them" ...It seems I was wrong, however! Totally wrong!

So, I've applied a bit of lateral thinking to my problem, and it seems like the best solution would be to just leave.

The bike trailer kind of fell apart on Friday afternoon, and even if it hadn't, I CANNOT HANDLE another 20km bike ride with my windsurf gear. Out of the question.

SO, I'll just ask ONE MORE TIME... I know it's a nuisance, I know it requires a bit of a detour and possible 20 minutes or so delay before you get on the water, but ARE THERE PEOPLE WHO CAN GIVE ME A LIFT, OR ARE THERE NOT?? I need to windsurf Saturdays, Sundays, and a couple of times during the week. This is essential to my continued existence. I know it's not your problem, and I won't resent it if you all say no.

So, what's the answer? DO I stay or do I go? I can easily chuck in my current job and bugger off to a place more conducive to windsurfing. Just let me know. Please.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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10 Sep 2007 7:45am
I reckon it is pretty ordinary that noboy offered.
If moving IS and option why not move to WA, you can get any job you want within 30min of entering the perth metro area.
but you'll still need a car as it will be pricey to live within 10km of water (and I am counting the river too)
knot board
knot board
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10 Sep 2007 10:06am
You should go.

Go and get a licence!

Then I could sell you my Hi-ace van, really cheap.
The perfect thing for a guy in your position, you could drive yourself all the way the WA and us Queenslanders won't have to listen to your b!tching any more
nebbian
nebbian
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10 Sep 2007 8:13am
quote:
Originally posted by Mark _australia

I reckon it is pretty ordinary that noboy offered.



Nobody? *sigh*
Krusty
Krusty
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10 Sep 2007 10:30am
Agreed Knot Board he should 'go', get a licence and buy your Hi Ace. All problems would then be solved.
Windsurfing is definately not a sport for those without transport.
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
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10 Sep 2007 10:58am
OOps...I meant "Nobody except Nebbian"!! Perhaps the greatest windsurfer to ever grace our shores!!

Yup, if I start now, in 12 months I can get a licence. Hooray.

I'm accustomed to windsurfing 2-5 times a week WITHOUT a car; of course the concept of having a windsurfing club with full equipment storage facilities right on the beach hasn't arrived in Australia yet...Singapore may not have as much wind, but living there has other advantages.

ok, thanks guys, no hard feelings, next time I'll do more research before making a move.

Maybe I'll find a way to get to the train once or twice more...c u then. Happy sailing.
DavMen
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10 Sep 2007 11:02am
The Clash - top song!!! ranked at 228 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time

Sorry to hear you can't scab a lift but.

Rule 1. NEVER rely on anybody, this way no one will ever disapoint you.

It is fair to expect the odd lift here or there but never regular transport! That a little audacious if not egocentric, to base your move on.

If all else fails you have to compromise somewhere - Try storing your gear near your sailing spot?


DavMen

Wet Willy
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10 Sep 2007 12:14pm
Davmen, I have to totally agree with Rule 1.

I wasn't expecting someone to become my personal chauffeur or anything; I just had a vague idea that if there were a few people driving to the beach, from time to time one or other of them could swing by my place and pick me up, with the overall outcome being that I would, more often than not, be able to go windsurfing.

As I noticed recently, cars basically go wherever you point them, and all you have to do is press down with your foot, turn the steering wheel, and move a few levers now and then. A few minutes pass, and you are somewhere else. Ingenious. And yes, you have to put petrol in, which, of course I had planned to pay for...
So, I'm growing more and more exasperated as the good sailing days pass by, and people seem quite willing to leave a fellow windsurfing addict high and dry, when it SEEMS like it would be so very easy to make a few extra turns of the steering wheel and push down with the foot for a bit longer...it's just a different mindset, I suppose.

That's life.
knot board
knot board
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10 Sep 2007 12:31pm
How is moving to another place going to help your cause?
You will still be an addicted windsurfer without transport
sonic
sonic
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10 Sep 2007 12:36pm
To be honest mate i think your expecting a bit much, most people are happy to help once your at the beach, but in general most of the guys are pushed for time and have a quick sail then rush back to work or pick the kids up etc,ALSO IF YOU GET A LIFT THERE YOU WILL NEED ONE BACK AND THAT MAY MEAN DIFFRENT TIMES TO FINISH SAILING, Phone the cab company and order a maxi, give the driver an extra $5 he will take you and your kit,honestly mate you will not enjoy the Gold Coast or its sailing until your independant.....sorry.
555
555
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10 Sep 2007 10:39am
Pretty much like hitch-hiking, just without the convenience (to the lift-giver) of the 'standing on the side of the road that they're already driving down' part..

It seems like throwing yourself at the mercy of the masses is not a great way to get ahead.

Davmen's suggestion of finding somewhere closer to the spot to store your gear sounds like a good one - there's bound to be someone handy (maybe a windsurfer even) who'd let you leave your stuff in their garage for $5 a week or something.. It's got to be easier to cycle, or get a lift without all that stuff as well.

Failing that, find yourself a girlfriend who loves the beach, and has a decent sized car, and doesn't mind sitting around while you sail, and then hang on to her tight because she's quite possibly the only one in existence!

Time for a different tactic - whinging on the forum about the injustice of nobody (Except Nebbian) letting you bludge a ride won't do much for your chances!
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
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10 Sep 2007 1:18pm

"Phone the cab company and order a maxi" - I tried that; apparently I wouldn't get much change from a hundred bucks per sailing session...worth it, yes, practical, no...

"If all else fails you have to compromise somewhere - Try storing your gear near your sailing spot?"-I've been making enquiries, but so far no takers. Maybe if I knock on doors all over Southport...

"How is moving to another place going to help your cause?
You will still be an addicted windsurfer without transport"

- Not that it will matter if I live at the beach! I'm thinking Vietnam, cheap rent and good wind, just a long bus ride to the city for work, but I can hack that...yeah baby...they also have windsurfing clubs in Singapore, Korea and Japan that I know of, and presumably other places as well, where you can store all your gear at the beach. So I have to choose one of the above places, at least for the 12 months it will take to get a licence.
I guess Australia doesn't have the windsurfing population to make clubs like that viable...


"Time for a different tactic - whinging on the forum about the injustice of nobody (Except Nebbian) letting you bludge a ride won't do much for your chances!" -Nah, man, this isn't a tactic, the time for asking has come and gone, the silence has been deafening, and the silence means there are no rides to be had and that's that. (BTW it's not called "bludging" or "scabbing" if you insist on paying for petrol, is it?)...anyway, I do appreciate that people are busy and all that. And people are quite helpful when it comes to gear and technique questions etc...
OK, I'll have a little talk to my boss...
decrepit
decrepit
WA
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10 Sep 2007 1:03pm
So how come it's going to take you 12 months to get a license????
Sailhack
Sailhack
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10 Sep 2007 3:04pm
I'd like to help Willy, but a few thousand kms might get costly, and time consuming per week.

Maybe the issue (of not being offered a lift), stems from the fact that if someone's heading to the beach, they might have their car/van/wagon/ute fully loaded with gear, and don't want to look like fools trying to 'squash' more in, and an extra passenger, especially if they already are giving a mate (and gear) a lift.

I've got a ute & hiace, if there's more than 2 boards/a few sails & gear in the van (and my tools) I wouldn't want to offer anyone else a lift either....it's packed. The ute is worse, and I've seen guys fit their gear into escort/corolla wagons (leaves room enough for a driver only.)

Most windsurfers. I'm sure would be happy to oblige....I reckon the logistics might be the issue.

Anyway, I hope you find a way to get on the water, it's just not right for you to be sitting at home if the wind's up.

(Anyways, gotta go.......my 'wind-tree' is near horizontal!!!) Sorry...
nebbian
nebbian
WA
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10 Sep 2007 1:05pm
12 months to get P's.

If it was me I'd take up kiting... heresy I know, but much easier to transport.
DavMen
DavMen
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10 Sep 2007 3:57pm
quote:
Originally posted by nebbian


If it was me I'd take up kiting... heresy I know, but much easier to transport.



Careful thats excommunicative talk[}:)]
eggs
eggs
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10 Sep 2007 4:00pm
Why not move closer to the Train in nearby Southport? seems a waste to move the thousands of kms from Singapore and then pull up 20k's short
Wet Willy
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10 Sep 2007 4:22pm
Eggs, I'm not sure I'd leave the place where I'm living now and move to Southport, and it's actually an idea I hadn't even considered before. Too much to explain here...

Equipment storage at Southport would be the go, though, if I can arrange it.

U know, there's a bus from my place that goes close to the Train. If I were a kiter, I could go every day, but then I'd be, well, a kiter...

It only really bothers me when the wind is up; as long as it's calm I don't mind just lying on the beach with a good book... so this week I'll probably be fine.
md74
md74
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10 Sep 2007 8:17pm
geez mate Id agree with eggs on this one! you came up a bit short.

You dont need to rely on anyone, you have a bike, that is your transport, get used to it, just leave earlier, 90% of windsurfers on the goldy are opportunists, if its windy we drop everything and go sailing, we have limited time, and yes, windsurfing is a selfish sport, sorry.

A lot of us swing between 3-5 windsurfing spots.

By what I see here nobody lives near you. Go in the ocean, its only a km or so from your place surely?

Junior freestyle lugged his kit behind a bmx for years, he did it because the overwhelming desire to windsurf far surpassed the pain to bicycle.

From Broady to the train is only like 5k, at 20km per hour should only take you 15 minutes.


You will be right, get the wheels in motion to get your license, in the meantime plan your day and get cycling muchacho.
firiebob
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10 Sep 2007 7:01pm
Wee Willy, if you lived near me I'd gladly give you a lift, but not regular as I wouldn't like to be tied to it or end up feeling obliged. But I do/have for whatever reasons.

Now here's an idea, we had a long term tourist here once, who stored his gear across the road from where we sail, with a unit owner.
When he said he was going to door knock all the units and ask, I thought he'd have f-all chance, but someone said OK. They had a lockup area with their carport. Then he only had to bus.
You'd need bigger balls than me to ask, but it's an idea.
Sailhack
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10 Sep 2007 11:36pm
quote:
Originally posted by Sailhack

(Anyways, gotta go.......my 'wind-tree' is near horizontal!!!) Sorry...



My wind-tree lied!!! flew home from work, loaded up, went to the spot.......wind dropped, got a couple of planes in & poorly executed gybe attempts before the wind dropped to dead-calm.

Now sitting here at 10-30pm worrying if my house will blow down with the gusts that are hitting the west-side.......

Why always after dark???

I thought I owed you this, after 'gloating' Willy.
DavMen
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11 Sep 2007 12:07am



quote:
Originally posted by firiebob

Wee Willy, if you lived near me I'd gladly give you a lift, but not regular as I wouldn't like to be tied to it or end up feeling obliged. But I do/have for whatever reasons.

Now here's an idea, we had a long term tourist here once, who stored his gear across the road from where we sail, with a unit owner.
When he said he was going to door knock all the units and ask, I thought he'd have f-all chance, but someone said OK. They had a lockup area with their carport. Then he only had to bus.
You'd need bigger balls than me to ask, but it's an idea.


I really feel for your situation Willy- Desperate times call for desparate tactics -

You could even try post a few adverts in the window at the local corner store. "Garage Wanted" or the like, maybe even find someone to share the cost with you?

Is there a surfshop or sailboard shop that might let you store your gear! Many moons ago when I was a gromet surfer - the Local surf shop Manly Sydney use to let surfers store their boards (for a small cost) at the back of his shop had a special room just for them.

Are there any sail clubs around they usually let you store gear too - just have to join and pay an annual fee.

Forget Singapore - No Wind
Vietnam/Thailand good in dry season but two hour drive by csr (car u no got) Bus prolly 4 hours from City - humidity unbearable!

Stay where you are and work on a solution - it'll come if you want it bad enough. Meantime work on that Licence!

Wet Willy
Wet Willy
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11 Sep 2007 10:42am
"From Broady to the train is only like 5k, at 20km per hour should only take you 15 minutes."

Holey Moley! Is there a wormhole in the space-time continuum or what? From Broadbeach Waters to the train is approx 10 km each way, and it takes an hour there (windsurf gear slows me down), and 2 hours back with the southerly headwind, tiredness, and fading visibility etc thrown in. Anyway, my trailer is out of action; I'd need a new one. But it sucks, it really, really sucks...this is no way to live...
WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
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11 Sep 2007 9:05am
in the long term you have to get some wheels - as the our american friends would say - "PERIOD"...

the only requirement for your wheels, is to get you from a to b then back to a.


bludging lifts,
leaving your stuff at one spot
bycycle
storing gear at a shop

all g*y

get a licence,get a car...quick


owain
owain
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11 Sep 2007 11:08am
find a place near the train to store your gear. I dont know what the rules are up here for it but in NSW if you have your motorbike L's you can ride by yourself on them. Therefore if this is the case get a scooter and you could get to the train in 5 min. Just an idea????
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
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11 Sep 2007 12:51pm
how about a moped (no license required) and a lightweight alloy trailer???
Arlo
Arlo
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11 Sep 2007 12:40pm
I am pretty sure that in the UK you can drive a 3 wheeler (Robin Reliant) on L plates unaccompanied; don't know whether you can get anything like that over here. Although I think it has to be yellow with Trotter's Independent Traders (TIT) on the side!

Or what about a Trike/Quad bike plus trailer? It would be a lot safer/stabler than a bike/moped.
stribo
stribo
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11 Sep 2007 1:11pm
For the life of me i can,t understand why anyone would move from O.S. to the east coast for the reason of windsurfing did you not do any research willy
Mate move to W.A. live in a tent at lano or corro's no need for transport then infact no need for much at all i did it for a cupla seasons on sweet F A ,ate lots of fresh fish and alot of tuna suprise (pasta and canned tuna)But you do what ya gotta do...
Stop messing around the season is just about to start get over here and live your dream. The east coast has it's days for sure i grew up there and have sailed there alot , but its half arsed if your seriuos about getting the most out of your windsurf holiday in oz.
Er whats that quote

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