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Lizg
Lizg
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1 posts
18 Dec 2008 3:50pm
Hi, I was thinking of buying my hubby a (second hand) windsurfer for xmas and came across this ad:

'I now have my sinker board "Torpedo" for sale complete ready to sail with four additional sail for varying wind conditions, all for $300'.

As I know nothing about windsurfing and hubby is a beginner I was hoping someone could tell me if this would be appropriate for him.
Thanks
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
18 Dec 2008 5:58pm
As your husband is a beginner, don't buy it. Not sure what sort of board the Torpedo is but it sounds pretty old, along with the sails. Does your husband have any windsurfing gear now?
DL
DL
WA
659 posts
DL DL
WA, 659 posts
18 Dec 2008 4:28pm
I'll just save everyone a heap of effort:

Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
18 Dec 2008 7:37pm
wait for it......wait for it........
























is that you brucie?
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
18 Dec 2008 7:42pm
Hi Lizg.

now that the formalities are over - it's probably hard to answer your question without knowing a little bit more about where hubby is at skill wise. can you tell us a bit more?

this thread has chit chat about boards that would suit a beginner quite well

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=42384
FISHGUTS
FISHGUTS
22 posts
22 posts
18 Dec 2008 6:59pm
Buy an x-excite ride or a starboard go!! doesent matter, but old gear was very frustrating when i was learning, the gear these days is so good for learners, amazing !!
Old gear will put you off for learning, get the new stuff :)

( long board is the worst for learning (unstable) !! :)
FilthyAmatuer
FilthyAmatuer
WA
877 posts
WA, 877 posts
18 Dec 2008 7:04pm
Lizg - No dont buy it.

I think the simple fact that he is selling a 'sinker board' should immediately suggest that it is not suitable for a beginner.
aus301
aus301
QLD
2039 posts
QLD, 2039 posts
18 Dec 2008 8:05pm
um, do you not like your husband??

cause on your current path your future looks something like this.

You will be poor. Every year you will notice thousands of dollars vanishing from your bank account and windsurfing equipment turning up in the shed that looks the same as last years gear...well maybe a different colour.

You will be lonely. Unless you decide to windsurf as well - read twice as expensive - you will not see him in the afternoons and weekend during summer. He will also not commit to any more social events for fear of missing a good seabreeze, and may well leave family gatherings - yes even Christmas day - to get his fix.

He will be moody. This mood will last most of winter, except on the odd occasion he gets out in that steamer you bought him so he can now sail year round.

You will no longer drive a nice car. No you are destined to own a rust riddled, salt water bathed van capable of holding all the gear he needs to fuel his passion. Actually it will become an addiction.

On the up side though, you didn't think of getting him a kite which entails all the above and a need to be the centre of attention and wear boardshorts over the top of any other apparel at all times.

Don't say you were not warned

Jokes aside, head to your nearest windsurfing shop and get some sound advice on what gear he might need. Maybe even buy him a lesson or two for Christmas. Buying the wrong gear is both an expensive and very frustrating mistake, which will most likely end in turning him off the sport for good.
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
18 Dec 2008 7:38pm
aus301 said...
Maybe even buy him a lesson or two for Christmas. Buying the wrong gear is both an expensive and very frustrating mistake, which will most likely end in turning him off the sport for good.


Best advice ever!

A couple of lessons will provide much more enjoyment than just the time spent doing them. They will set him up for the next few years
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
18 Dec 2008 8:58pm
pay heed to Nebbian. He's very wise. Kinda like the guy on the TV show Kung Fu. (except a windsurfer instead of a kung fu'er)....
lalalamort
lalalamort
NSW
160 posts
NSW, 160 posts
18 Dec 2008 10:28pm
WINDSURFER ONE!!!!
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
18 Dec 2008 9:41pm
Yes BUY IT. We're in a recession. BUY BUY BUY.
Chris249
Chris249
357 posts
357 posts
18 Dec 2008 9:02pm
FISHGUTS said...

Buy an x-excite ride or a starboard go!! doesent matter, but old gear was very frustrating when i was learning, the gear these days is so good for learners, amazing !!
Old gear will put you off for learning, get the new stuff :)

( long board is the worst for learning (unstable) !! :)



Longboards are excellent for teaching on, unless you are on choppy water.

They are not as stable side to side, but they go a lot faster in light winds under small sails, stay upwind much better, and go better in light winds so you can actually go out and sail rather than sit on shore and wonder where the wind is.

A decent sail is a huge advantage though, and most of the old longboard sails were pretty rotten.

We've taught 100+ people, and in that time I can recall about three or four who could not sail by end of the first session in moderate to light winds. That includes many people who were overseas uni students who had English language difficulties and no concept of watersports.

There is a reason that Australia's only World Cup overall winner (two times) is teaching lots of people on longboards - and the reason is that it works. Not for everyone, not for every place, but it is the best option for many people and many places.


timford
timford
NSW
510 posts
NSW, 510 posts
18 Dec 2008 11:05pm
please dont buy it, go to the shop and speak to the guys there,
I took the advice of a mate who was stuck a while back in things and time. 14 months later am regretting it big time. I should have gone to the shop got a couple of lessons and then bought my gear.
I thank my mate for getting me into windsurfing big time but the gear advice was a little out of touch.
JP Xcite ride is good advice , have one now and its very good.
Captn Scooby
Captn Scooby
WA
62 posts
WA, 62 posts
19 Dec 2008 12:38am
Agree with the others on here. Either invest in lessons or get some advice from a windsurfing shop.

If either of those aren't an option for you, ie no shops or windsurfing schools nearby, maybe you could invest in a less expensive present like an instructional DVD for beginners?
"Beginner to Winner" by Jem Hall and "Intuition" by Guy Cribb are quite popular, and there's another by Peter Hart which is apparently quite good "Windsurfing Fundamentals" is the original learn to windsurf dvd and I think he's due to release another called "New Beginnings".
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
19 Dec 2008 12:59pm
Firstly, this guy with the longboard is out to lunch. Waters were crowded long time ago, and every single one of them had learned on longboards. So surely it's doable, even easy. Not saying it's the best or only option, but do consider.

Don't buy Go's, this and other forum are replete with people getting bored with them after a few outings. Feels like standing on a cricket field.

Lessons and rentals: of course, that's the right advice. Get to know what you wanna do. Try a few planks, and so on.

Advice from shops: you gotta be kidding me. They sell stuff, preferably multiple gear. Often with young sales guys that look about 14. Don't start there until you have a pretty good idea what you wanna do.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
19 Dec 2008 1:54pm
I don't get it. Are you guy's following DL's (truly excellent) flow chart accidentally or on purpose?
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
TAS, 2317 posts
19 Dec 2008 3:21pm
Buy a couple of current magazines to get a feel for the huge variety of gear on the market.

Be aware that with windsurfing, you can learn a lot from books, mags and videos but this theoretical knowledge takes a LOOONG time to translate into physical ability. It's easy to read a few mags and think you're ready for the hard stuff, like small boards, waves, high winds, etc....

Lessons and rentals first. And talking to windsurfers at the beach. Don't buy yet!
DL
DL
WA
659 posts
DL DL
WA, 659 posts
19 Dec 2008 1:46pm
evlPanda said...

I don't get it. Are you guy's following DL's (truly excellent) flow chart accidentally or on purpose?


lol, it's like watching an accident happen in slow motion.
aus301
aus301
QLD
2039 posts
QLD, 2039 posts
19 Dec 2008 2:52pm
pierrec45 said...

Advice from shops: you gotta be kidding me. They sell stuff, preferably multiple gear. Often with young sales guys that look about 14. Don't start there until you have a pretty good idea what you wanna do.



You must be going to the wrong shops. The two shops I frequent these days have guys there that do what they do for the love of the sport, in one case hold down another job just to keep the place running. If they wanted to make real money they would have closed up and gone elsewhere. In my experience 90% of the shops I have been to in the country have been the same.

So quite simply, pull your head in. Without these guys we wouldn't have a sport.

BTW I do not work for a windsurfing shop, or have any association with a windsurfing shop.

Reflex Films
Reflex Films
WA
1460 posts
WA, 1460 posts
19 Dec 2008 2:29pm
no really - that flow chart really is gold.



why are we still here?
The Grinch
The Grinch
WA
733 posts
WA, 733 posts
19 Dec 2008 5:47pm

Perhaps the board actually sinks...

Lizg must be stoked with all these responses.
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
19 Dec 2008 9:09pm
DL said...

I'll just save everyone a heap of effort:




This has gotta be "Post of the Year". Does DL win a prize?
JEZ
JEZ
WA
395 posts
JEZ JEZ
WA, 395 posts
19 Dec 2008 7:49pm

Good one DL, you missed out the 'lessons or self-abuse' sub-set though.

....and Lizg, your intentions are great, but the lesson path, then advice from the instructors is probably the safest way to go.

Jez

Have to love 'TORPEDO' as a name for a windsurfer though...
sharkbiscuit
sharkbiscuit
820 posts
820 posts
19 Dec 2008 9:46pm
Lizg: Get a 5 lesson gift voucher for xmas. You can't go wrong with his.



Captn Scooby
Captn Scooby
WA
62 posts
WA, 62 posts
19 Dec 2008 10:53pm
hmm it seems we are presuming that Liz and hubby live in an area where there are windsurfing shops and schools... and there are plenty of places in Oz that don't.

In which case I suggest a holiday to a windsurfing mecca where they do lessons.
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