Sailor Weight to Board Volume Ratio

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Arlo
Arlo
SA
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SA, 139 posts
7 Sep 2007 5:21pm
Given a certain set of wind and wave conditions should the ratio between sailor weight and board volume be consistent?

If I am finding a board too big for the conditions, would a smaller sailor find an equivalent board (same ratio) too big as well?

The reason for the question is that my wife only weighs about 55kg and the board she usually sails is about 84L so although she doesn't need to she can pretty much uphaul on it without it sinking. Most people seem to use the smallest board they can get away with given the conditions; therefore should she be doing the same and in high wind use something around 50-60L?

If so given that the only boards you can really get that are that small are wave boards, if you were sailing slalom or bump/jump rather than wave, are you better off using the right size board even though it is not ideally shaped for the type of sailing?
johnny P
johnny P
NSW
24 posts
NSW, 24 posts
7 Sep 2007 6:27pm
dude it depenes on the boards shape to some wave boards are slow and some are fast as for litres i'm 75kg and my biggest board is 80Lt but on flat water i could go to 90lt but i think it all comes down to the sailers cunfort if she think its to big its to big.
nat
nat
WA
102 posts
nat nat
WA, 102 posts
7 Sep 2007 4:30pm
That is the dilemma you face when you are that weight. Your wife would definitely have more fun on a smaller board in bump and jump conditions. I am the same weight and use a 78l Freestyle wave for my big board and a 62L Euphoria for my waveboard - pretty much the smallest you can find before going to kids boards. I guess what I am trying to say is you have to compromise when you are our size - I prefer the smaller boards even if they are waveboards and I don't really carve up any waves. Bigger boards are scary in high winds for a lightweight. Saying that the "new generation" wave boards are the go. I had a full on trad wave board and found it planes less quickly, so by the time I was planing the wind was getting too strong.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12872 posts
WA, 12872 posts
7 Sep 2007 4:52pm
Skill level is a factor as well, my wife is smaller than me but feels more comfortable on a bigger board than I'm riding. Bigger board has more stability so it's easier to gybe and gets on the plane quicker, she also doesn't like going flat out, so doesn't have as much trouble with the board bouncing around.
My wife's favourite board is close to 90l (agrees with nat, it's a new style waveboard) and she weighs about 65kg I think.

If your wife loves going fast and has no trouble gybing, then a smaller board would feel better.

I'm not sure the volume/weight ratio is constant thru different weights of riders thou, because at speed planning area is the issue, not volume.
And volume varies with the square of area.
So theoretically, (and this is only theory, somebody may else may know for sure),
if you're wife is half your weight, at speed she needs half the planning area not half the volume, which means she'd be on more of a sinker than you are, unless the board is proportionally thicker.
Zed
Zed
WA
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Zed Zed
WA, 1274 posts
7 Sep 2007 5:11pm
Yeah it's not just dependant on weight, there's height, how well the weight is distributed etc etc So I'll need some pictures of your wife in order for me to give you a more in-depth answer.
Arlo
Arlo
SA
139 posts
SA, 139 posts
7 Sep 2007 7:09pm
quote:
Originally posted by Zed

Yeah it's not just dependant on weight, there's height, how well the weight is distributed etc etc So I'll need some pictures of your wife in order for me to give you a more in-depth answer.



I've heard that one before

Not having tried any of the latest generation boards, certainly nothing below 75L, she'll have to give them a try and see how comfortable they are. It just seemed strange that relatively speaking she has never really sailed a sinker so I have always thought she has been on too big a board; saying that the conditions have probably never been too big for the 84L she has used.
Annika
Annika
WA
48 posts
WA, 48 posts
8 Sep 2007 8:51am
Arlo I'm about the same size as your wife and sail in both wave and slalom conditions. If the water is flat you can get away with more volume (I've been using 85Lt board for river sailing 12-30knt as they didn't make smaller... just got a new 76 though ).

Waves is another story... I tried a 50-55ltr custom Stone board a few years back and was stoked with the extra control... no longer bouncing around bottom turns. Now thats my high wind board, and I have a 65ish for light winds (with a 5.0 can plane in around 12kn).

If you can get your hands on something smaller (may be try around a 65ish at first), then I think she might enjoy it... with that said it all depends on what level she is at and how comfortable she is on the water.
stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
3571 posts
WA, 3571 posts
8 Sep 2007 11:54am
This might sound silly but have you looked at the ProKids range from Starboard? They have Wave boards as small as 50 liters. They are marketed as "High performance boards for windsurfers under 55kg".

I think Starboard also used to make boards with low volume specifically for women. Can' remember what name they where sold under.

I might be wrong but I think Stone is shaping quite a few of the Starboards these days.
Annika
Annika
WA
48 posts
WA, 48 posts
8 Sep 2007 4:44pm
Not such I silly idea with the pro kids range.... I've owned the kids s-type and an evo 62 (which was the same as the kids then). Found the evo good as an all rounder (was my only wave board for 2 years) but still a bit thick in the rails for me in high wind (25kt plus). Not sure if its been changed for this year, but last years pro acid was one of stones designs.
Arlo
Arlo
SA
139 posts
SA, 139 posts
11 Sep 2007 12:23am
The 50/55L starboard boards certainly look like they are worth a try although I think 62L may be a better size, and a max sail size of 4.7m seems rather small when I am comparing myself on a 95L board with a 6m sail.

It will definitely be worth a go if we can find any at a demo day.

I don't know what qualifies as intermediate nowadays but she is blasting around and pulling off 50% of her carve gybes (although not planing out). The biggest problem with a demo is probably going to be the fact that she hasn't really had to deal with that first time on a "short board" where you sink to your knees until the board is moving; I seem to remember a couple of days of not going very far until the technique improved.
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