Returning after 15year break

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stanly
stanly
QLD
307 posts
QLD, 307 posts
3 Nov 2010 9:22pm
I'm returning to windsurfing after a 15 year break, Started windsurfing in 1985 and there wasn't a day when it was over 10-15knts+ I wasn't out there from 85 -97.
Still have all my gear from the mid 90's which still works well but want to upgrade to newer equipment. The new equipment and board styles is mind blowing. Eventually wouldn't mind getting involved in the GPS sailing.
I picked up a 6.6m freerace sail and now need a newer board.

I'm assuming the slalom boards are a lot faster and more full on than they used to be. Would it be a mistake to go straight for the meanest fastest slalom out there or go for a freerace style board first and then upgrade next summer

Can anyone recommend a board (for say 12 - 20knts, I weigh 80kgs) that would be good to get back into it
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2878 posts
SA, 2878 posts
3 Nov 2010 10:08pm
120ltr JP xcite ride or 122ltr Starboard carve, perfect for lakes and a bit of playing in the sea
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12872 posts
WA, 12872 posts
3 Nov 2010 7:51pm
stanly said...

>>>>>

I'm assuming the slalom boards are a lot faster and more full on than they used to be. Would it be a mistake to go straight for the meanest fastest slalom out there or go for a freerace style board first and then upgrade next summer

>>>>>>>>


Not sure your assumption is correct, if you look at modern speed/race boards you'll see they have some tuck on the rails forward of the front strap, this makes them much more user friendly than the old razor edge rails all the way along.
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
3 Nov 2010 10:18pm
Go with the advice you have gotten so far

Modern slalom boards are easier than 90's ones. Wider means more stability and better upwind but you can have tuck on the rails. I haven't had a board trip in years (touch wood), but it was a relatively common thing when pushing the old stuff.

Modern freerace stuff is quick & nice to use. For a given volume the freerace stuff is often about 5cm narrower (so can be slightly better in the chop) than the full on slaloms which are designed to have good acceleration etc. Speeds wont be that different unless you spend time on board & many of the freerace boards & sails are actually quicker on average.

The freerace stuff is also built a bit sturdier than the full on stuff. The biggest problem is fins if you have tuttle, alot of the freerace boards are still trimbox.

Thumbs up for the F2 RX, Fanatic Ray & Naish Grand Prix (im a little biased but they are all solid, fast & nice to use). Although a little old the Starboard S-types were good, don't know if the replacement (Futura) is quite as aggressive. Havent ridden the JP's.

Obviously there are alot of cheap slalom boards around at the moment because racing is quite popular. All are certainly user friendly enough, it is just how solid the boards are is the problem.

My one tip with them all is use longer harness lines than you used to, start with 26's
vando
vando
QLD
3419 posts
QLD, 3419 posts
3 Nov 2010 10:20pm
Hey Stanly where did you use to sail Ive been sailing around wello for about 25 years.
Were you an experiance sailer back then cause its like riding a bike you never really forget.
I had about a 5 year break and got straigt back into it.
If your unsure about ya self yer get a freeride board maybe a starboard futura 111 be a good size depending on ya weight.
Best thing pop down to wello on the weekend and talk to some of the guys down there.
I be down on sat hopefully taking some pics. easy to spot me Ive got a leg brace on.
or you could pop down to ya local shop for advise.
vando
vando
QLD
3419 posts
QLD, 3419 posts
3 Nov 2010 10:28pm
come to think of it have we aleady met
stanly
stanly
QLD
307 posts
QLD, 307 posts
3 Nov 2010 11:26pm
Thanks for the advise everyone - maybe freerace is the way to go.
Hi vando, yes I think we met back in Sep.
Used to sail at Wello heaps (and Margate after work in the late 80's). Orignally learnt in Auckland in 85 and moved over here after expo (but don't hold that against me). Also used to do a bit of wave sailing up and down the Gold Coast and North NSW, and sometimes used to go up to Pumistone Passage.
I am very amazed at how the skill is still there especially gybing, it is like riding a bike. The only thing that is missing is the fitness especially doing light wind waterstarts, but I am sure I'll get that back after this summer.
Have been teaching my son the past few weekends at wello, and looking forward to the next sat or sun with some decent wind, hopefully this weekend. Planning on going to Wello this Sunday.
KenHo
KenHo
NSW
1353 posts
NSW, 1353 posts
4 Nov 2010 8:09am
See if you can get to the GC before Surf Fx have to give up the JP trailer. I think they still have a few days left.
Call Greeny and find out, but with good wind in the next few days, you might get lucky.
FRee-style wave boards are very user friendly for returning sailors. Worked for me after a nearly 6 year break. Not as fast as a slalom board, but very good for B&J stuff also, and very forgiving.
Ben 555
Ben 555
NSW
456 posts
NSW, 456 posts
4 Nov 2010 10:21am
decrepit said...

stanly said...

>>>>>

I'm assuming the slalom boards are a lot faster and more full on than they used to be. Would it be a mistake to go straight for the meanest fastest slalom out there or go for a freerace style board first and then upgrade next summer

>>>>>>>>


Not sure your assumption is correct, if you look at modern speed/race boards you'll see they have some tuck on the rails forward of the front strap, this makes them much more user friendly than the old razor edge rails all the way along.


Returned after a similiar break - my 90's gear was a needle nose 90l slalom board which both delighted and frightened - i still have memories of catching rails at full tilt and bouncing off the water - I have a iso 101 as its replacement and after only 3 sails on it I cant believe how easy it is in comparison - there is no comparison
Whatever you get Stanly youll be happy - modern gear is great
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
4 Nov 2010 11:37am
stanly said...

Thanks for the advise everyone - maybe freerace is the way to go.
Hi vando, yes I think we met back in Sep.
Used to sail at Wello heaps (and Margate after work in the late 80's). Orignally learnt in Auckland in 85 and moved over here after expo (but don't hold that against me). Also used to do a bit of wave sailing up and down the Gold Coast and North NSW, and sometimes used to go up to Pumistone Passage.
I am very amazed at how the skill is still there especially gybing, it is like riding a bike. The only thing that is missing is the fitness especially doing light wind waterstarts, but I am sure I'll get that back after this summer.
Have been teaching my son the past few weekends at wello, and looking forward to the next sat or sun with some decent wind, hopefully this weekend. Planning on going to Wello this Sunday.


Wasn't for me..[}:)]
Still I got back into it after a 10 year break on my old 90's gear.On recommendations here I upgraded to some Tabou Rocket freeride boards & they are SO user friendly & darn fast enough for me! I used to have a firbreglass windaction 9' slalom in the 90's before I got waveboards. Even though my gybes are average the boards are very easy to gybe & pretty forgiving.Heaps easier than my 90's boards.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
4 Nov 2010 12:48pm
Yeah,

the first time I tried my Tabou Rocket I was amazed how easy it was to sail compared to the Bomboras I was riding before. It was so stable yet fast. A real cruisy board.

The biggest changes to boards I found when getting back into it was how short yet wide the boards were plus most boards were made in the one factory.

Mkseven, you mean powerbox finboxes for freeride boards, not trimbox.


flipper4444
flipper4444
VIC
1214 posts
VIC, 1214 posts
4 Nov 2010 2:09pm
welcome back son
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
4 Nov 2010 2:56pm
Mobydisc said...


Mkseven, you mean powerbox finboxes for freeride boards, not trimbox.


Woops, yeah my bad
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
4019 posts
WA, 4019 posts
4 Nov 2010 1:28pm
It doesn't matter if you use old boards or new, just get back into it!
I had a break of 10 years and am loving being back on the water.
Most of the technique you don't forget, except for the more exacting moves.
jimbob SA
jimbob SA
SA
1000 posts
SA, 1000 posts
5 Nov 2010 11:38am
I came back and have been riding an F2 stoke 117, very good board for speed and handles great in the sea and jumps well. use from 6.7 race sails down to 4.2 and 4.7 wave sails, just have a selection of different size fins it makes all the difference.
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