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Scully
Scully
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WA, 412 posts
10 Dec 2009 8:18pm
Hello,
Lately I’ve created a lot of beginner topics, with my simple questions answered within the first 5 posts. Doing so, I’m just going to make this topic for my own questions about the wikid sport windsurfing. Rather than creating a new topic each time.

Each time i have a question ill just resurrect this forum and all you handy peeps can help me out all over again :D

Avoid the topic de-railing please :P
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Q1; Learning to carve jibe, but struggling to come out the other side planning, the only time i can succeed a full planning carve jibe is when I’m seriously pumping in the last phase of the jibe.

Does this simply mean, that my 4.7 ezzy is not enough to carry my 155 lt board, planning?
Or could I be doing a common mistake that you’ve all done?
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
4019 posts
WA, 4019 posts
10 Dec 2009 9:09pm
Sounds like you are expecting a lot of your 4.7. How much wind is there?
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
4019 posts
WA, 4019 posts
10 Dec 2009 9:10pm
Sounds like you are expecting a lot of your 4.7.
How much wind is there?

Sorry, it posted twice.
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
11 Dec 2009 10:15am
You have your weight too far back on the board and you're stalling the board.

Bend ze knees
Weight forward
Press down through the boom
Engage the rail.
Carve
Scully
Scully
WA
412 posts
WA, 412 posts
11 Dec 2009 8:08am
Windxtasy. windspeed = 17knots+

Gorgo said...

You have your weight too far back on the board and you're stalling the board.

Bend ze knees
Weight forward
Press down through the boom


so just do that INtuition tip 'DROP YA GUTS'?
and yeah rail pressure isnt easy on the 155 :S
boardswa
boardswa
WA
72 posts
WA, 72 posts
11 Dec 2009 9:59am
If you are a learner on a 4.7 ezzy and 155 lt board I am surprised you are thinking about planing carve gybes and if you are pumping in the last part of the gybe then there is obviously not a lot of wind around. If you are already at this level you need a better balance. Try a smaller board, a 4.7 is a high wind sail for a small wave board type. To plane out of a gybe on a 155 litre board requires a large sail and a decent amount of skill. I'm surprised the 4.7 even gets you going on that gear....
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
11 Dec 2009 11:11am
use your 4.7 in 30+knots
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
11 Dec 2009 1:11pm
(1) technique as per Gorgo's post. It will take years to perfect just work at it

(2) a 4.7 on a 155L will not generate anywhere near enough force to hold the front of the board down (mastfoot pressure) and enable u to engage the rail fully. The ideal sail range for your board will be 7 - 9m if you are planing and doing carve gybes. 4.7 on that board is for learning and it sounds like you are progressing so fast you need to think about different gear?
raggy
raggy
VIC
564 posts
VIC, 564 posts
12 Dec 2009 9:14am
a 4.7 on a 155L ? in what 30+ knots. like the others said if your trying to gybe and riding at that stage get a setup that will allow you to learn those things, ie 100L and a 6.5 or somthing ( i dont know what your weights like) move out of your comfort zone
Scully
Scully
WA
412 posts
WA, 412 posts
12 Dec 2009 7:52am
lol im happy to get new gear, but money is whats the problem
raggy
raggy
VIC
564 posts
VIC, 564 posts
12 Dec 2009 12:31pm
yha as always mate but its a big board and would think a 4.7 is very small my be even too small i would think. im 75 kgs and i sail mostly a 103L witha 6.6 or 5.5 and happy to blast around most of the day in 15-20+ knots i just honestly think that combo is asking a bit to much as you progess but thats just my thoughts mate
raggy
raggy
VIC
564 posts
VIC, 564 posts
12 Dec 2009 12:36pm
BTW was just looking at your profile mate give it time if your thinking about carve gibes so soon your ether very talanted or need to slow up it will come with time bro
just enjoy your self best of luck.
Scully
Scully
WA
412 posts
WA, 412 posts
2 Jan 2010 1:32pm
Resurrected.

Are there any Windsurfing Accesseries that prevent you damaging your board from catapaults?
I remember reading something about boom bras, not quite sure what they are or what there purpose are, do these prevent damages?

Cheers
Squid Lips
Squid Lips
WA
708 posts
WA, 708 posts
2 Jan 2010 4:52pm
I would say it is debatable. If you are hitting the board hard enough to do damage, 1/2" of padding won't save it. Another product is Jez's knob, which goes in the mast track and deflects the mast away so it can't hit the front of the board, but some say it can damage your board around the mast track due to leverage. It could get in the way during tacks too. then there are nose protectors. I would never use one personally as they would hide any damage that has occured underneath. Rather than protecting your board from catapults it's better to learn how to catapult safely (or stop catapulting ). Sheet in and hold on and you will spin around past the nose and land on your back on the water most of the time.
Scully
Scully
WA
412 posts
WA, 412 posts
10 Jan 2010 11:03am
Resurrected.

I'm looking at buying Swooshs
North Duke 5.9
And wanting it to be my primary freestyle sail with my new
2008 Starboard Flare 99

I'm aware some brand masts simply dont mix with other brand sails.
i.e NP vs Gaastra

Will my "Neil Pryde 430 X3 imcs21 matrix" work with the Duke?
I dont exactly want to buy another mast, but saying that i do,
as it will be my main freestyle sail which will help me learn countless moves,
therefore it must be forgiving and rigged to perfection!
vando
vando
QLD
3419 posts
QLD, 3419 posts
10 Jan 2010 1:29pm
Sculley I wouldnt worry too much about matching mast yet
and you can always get one later if you need to.
Scully
Scully
WA
412 posts
WA, 412 posts
10 Jan 2010 11:56am
just answer the question vando lol,
you should of just said "yeah it will work out fine" and i would of accepted your opinion lol

I have a gift voucher with surf fx, so i needa spend the money on something, the only things that i semi need are a matching mast, a forgiving freestyle fin, and a better harness.
vando
vando
QLD
3419 posts
QLD, 3419 posts
10 Jan 2010 2:30pm
ok at your stage I thinks its fine
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
10 Jan 2010 2:32pm
some further reading

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=57643

if you look at the peterman tables. the imcs bend characteristic column you can see that mast bend curves can vary wildly within each manufacturer from year to year. so it is not black and white.

www.peterman.dk/masts-all-imcs01.htm
www.peterman.dk/mast-imcs-formulas.htm

mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
10 Jan 2010 2:36pm
I agree with vando- mast fine.

Freestyle fins are often made from old fins so don't waste money there, get planing along well- be able to stay upwind, jump, gybe and tack well before you worry about freestyle.

Perhaps save your gift voucher for a bit, you often break stuff within your 1st year of sailing.

Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
10 Jan 2010 2:41pm
scully is doing very very well,

spent the whole time in the straps planing at VP on monday. is carve gybing, learning jumping, haven't seen water starts yet?

frankly, i have never seen someone progress so fast! he is a friggin sponge!
vando
vando
QLD
3419 posts
QLD, 3419 posts
10 Jan 2010 2:43pm
Gestalt said...

scully is doing very very well,

spent the whole time in the straps planing at VP on monday. is carve gybing, learning jumping, haven't seen water starts yet?

frankly, i have never seen someone progress so fast! he is a friggin sponge!


So that make him better than you gesty
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
10 Jan 2010 2:44pm
everyone's better than me.
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
10 Jan 2010 12:44pm
Scully said...

Resurrected.


Will my "Neil Pryde 430 X3 imcs21 matrix" work with the Duke?



I used a Neil Pryde 430 X3 in a North Ice 5.7 (similar to the Duke), it worked fine

Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
10 Jan 2010 2:46pm
i never thought that ice of your's look so good with the NP mast. but that doesn't mean that much in reality.

p.s. awesome result at the LOC!
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
10 Jan 2010 2:47pm
Not saying that he isn't doing very well. I'm saying master the basics first, I guess freestyle gives some a great excuse to fall off at every corner though.
Scully
Scully
WA
412 posts
WA, 412 posts
10 Jan 2010 12:59pm
Thx nebbian, thats the kinda answer i was looking for.

And thx mark for the freestyle fin tip, as 2moro i was actually planning on going down to surf fx and getting one. not anymore (:

But whats a sponge mean? isnt it something you use to clean? lol
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
10 Jan 2010 3:05pm
it is also somehting that absorbs! and retains stuff.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
10 Jan 2010 5:23pm
Gestalt said...

scully is doing very very well,

spent the whole time in the straps planing at VP on monday. is carve gybing, learning jumping, haven't seen water starts yet?

frankly, i have never seen someone progress so fast! he is a friggin sponge!

Grr..[}:)]

Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
10 Jan 2010 7:45pm
grr fro me too.

it's always been a struggle for me.
vando
vando
QLD
3419 posts
QLD, 3419 posts
10 Jan 2010 8:16pm
Gestalt said...

grr fro me too.

it's always been a struggle for me.


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