Recommended roof rack for a wally?

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Haydos
Haydos
NSW
14 posts
NSW, 14 posts
22 Jun 2009 2:51pm
Hi All,

I am new to the sport and have purchased a second half W1 board and sail etc.
Now I have just to transport the thing! Any tips, advice and recommendations as to the best, most suited roof rack to go for?
I have a Berlina sedan.
Thanks in advance.
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
NSW, 1510 posts
22 Jun 2009 4:00pm
I've used both Rola's and Thules with Wallies at sustained expressway speeds - either will dio the job well

Thule's 'felt' stronger and more secure though.

Use good tie downs!
Ellobuddha
Ellobuddha
NSW
625 posts
NSW, 625 posts
22 Jun 2009 5:09pm
Ive got a set of Thules. They are expensive but you get what you pay for. A far more expensive problem if cheap ones snap and your board goes flying through the air and snaps, let alone hits a Bentley driving behind you.

I cart two sailboards stacked on each other at 120kmh no worries at all. I use occy straps as I had a near board death experience with tie downs - beware if they get wet - they stretch. Hopefully it was just a quality issue with the ones I had.
tike
tike
3 posts
3 posts
22 Jun 2009 3:31pm
after battling with a small car and roof racks and damaging my car whenever i fought with a sea breeze getting my board on an off my recommendation would be buy a delica...
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
22 Jun 2009 5:33pm
Ellobuddha said...

Ive got a set of Thules. They are expensive but you get what you pay for. A far more expensive problem if cheap ones snap and your board goes flying through the air and snaps...


It's a Wally - it will bounce! (from experience)
AUS4
AUS4
NSW
1296 posts
NSW, 1296 posts
22 Jun 2009 7:24pm
Ellobuddha said...

Ive got a set of Thules. They are expensive but you get what you pay for. A far more expensive problem if cheap ones snap and your board goes flying through the air and snaps, let alone hits a Bentley driving behind you.

I cart two sailboards stacked on each other at 120kmh no worries at all. I use occy straps as I had a near board death experience with tie downs - beware if they get wet - they stretch. Hopefully it was just a quality issue with the ones I had.


NEVER NEVER use Occy straps, the most dangerest things on the planet.
They will rip your eye out and when you go around a corner your board will go straight ahead. I thought they had been banned.
WindmanV
WindmanV
VIC
819 posts
VIC, 819 posts
22 Jun 2009 7:52pm
Hi, All,

I certainly agree that a good quality tie-down is the way to go, but suggest that 2 x tie-downs are used on the front rack (where all the wind load is) and 1 x tie-down is used on the rear rack. If one front breaks, the second is there as a back up (and I found this out the hard way).

Regards,

WindmanV
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
22 Jun 2009 8:37pm
Driven all around Australia and the US in the 80s with various boards, including old one-designs, never had a problem.

I put the board upside down and tail-first, dragging far at the back of the car (or lemon in my case). Very little drag that way, and no uplift on the board.
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
22 Jun 2009 6:43pm
AUS4 said...

Ellobuddha said...


NEVER NEVER use Occy straps, the most dangerest things on the planet.
They will rip your eye out and when you go around a corner your board will go straight ahead. I thought they had been banned.

after years of ropes and/or tiedown ,rachety things I went back to occy's. the trick is to actually think carefully about how and you use them

AUS4
AUS4
NSW
1296 posts
NSW, 1296 posts
22 Jun 2009 10:14pm
you are crazy!
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
NSW, 1510 posts
22 Jun 2009 10:18pm
landyacht said...

AUS4 said...

Ellobuddha said...


NEVER NEVER use Occy straps, the most dangerest things on the planet.
They will rip your eye out and when you go around a corner your board will go straight ahead. I thought they had been banned.

after years of ropes and/or tiedown ,rachety things I went back to occy's. the trick is to actually think carefully about how and you use them


If you think carefully you won't use them , not without the correct safety equipment that is eg: full face hemet, riggers gloves, kevlar body armor, a cordened of work area and a flashing overhead light. [}:)]

BTW OH&S safety officers at our work has banned their use on our work van racks.
But feel free to give them a try if you dare
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
22 Jun 2009 10:33pm
I agree. Occies are not strong enough anyway, I guess they'd hold 100kg ish whereas the cheapest webbing straps I've ever seen are rated at 250kg.

I use webbing straps, 2 at front and one at rear, boards upside down nose first so the uplift from air coming up the wndscreen is balanced out (or overcome by) the downforce the upside down rocker causes.
Never had a problem on trips of over 9hrs of highway driving with a couple of hrs at 130kph, no tightening of straps required.
I've had 3 quality brands over the years and never had them shrink when wet either.

Haydos
Haydos
NSW
14 posts
NSW, 14 posts
23 Jun 2009 1:26am
Thanks for the tips guys, appreciate it.
Looks like Thules will be the way to go. By the sound of it they may be more expensive than the board!
Now, occys or tie downs, that's the next dilemma!
Muchos grachos.
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
22 Jun 2009 11:43pm
Real men use rope
Paul Kelf
Paul Kelf
WA
678 posts
WA, 678 posts
23 Jun 2009 12:02am
nebbian said...

Real men use rope


What would be a good rope to use?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
23 Jun 2009 10:58am
nebbian said...

Real men use rope


Yeah 3/4 inch hemp rope, couple of sheepshanks to really get some mechanical advantage and pull as hard as u can

JayBee
JayBee
NSW
714 posts
NSW, 714 posts
23 Jun 2009 1:49pm
Google "Elastic restraining Strap" and "safety".

There is absolutely no way I would ever trust an occy strap to keep anything on the roof of a car. They are designed to stretch! I have always used webbing straps, and have NEVER seen them shrink. I have driven over 8000kms last year (Noosa, Great Ocean Road etc) with boards on the roof with webbing straps.
They do need looking after as they can fray where I tie knots, but at least any damage is visible. Occy straps may be damaged in the core, and the damage invisible until catastrophic. They are like a timebomb on the roof.

JB
ka43
ka43
NSW
3101 posts
NSW, 3101 posts
23 Jun 2009 7:10pm
Nebs, real men use plastic thin clothes line from Bunnings

Occy straps, chuck them in the bin. Nearly lost an eye from them, just blind luck. No pun intended.
Use quality webbing tie downs with metal or similar buckles. Not the el cheapo plastic crap from the bargain bin at Auto One.
I have Rola's and they have been great. Big SUP's on the freeway at 120-130kmh,
several boards stacked 3 high etc. Im sure the Thules are as good.
Who wants to look in the rear view mirror and see boards cartwheeling down the road!!!!!!
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
3570 posts
NSW, 3570 posts
24 Jun 2009 1:09am
Whenever I'm taking a Wally (or any longboard) on a long trip, I take a line from the front tow ring or bumper of the car and use it to tie the boards down at the front. Dunno if it's ever been needed, but it sure does help the peace of mind when a lorry slipstream comes the other way.
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
24 Jun 2009 9:19am
Chris 249 said...

Whenever I'm taking a Wally (or any longboard) on a long trip, I take a line from the front tow ring or bumper of the car and use it to tie the boards down at the front. Dunno if it's ever been needed, but it sure does help the peace of mind when a lorry slipstream comes the other way.


Yeah, same here with longboard or sea kayak - if the racks somehow come off, at least you wont kill whoever is behind you!

djl070
djl070
WA
290 posts
WA, 290 posts
24 Jun 2009 9:02am
Haydos said...

Hi All,

I am new to the sport and have purchased a second half W1 board and sail etc.
Now I have just to transport the thing! Any tips, advice and recommendations as to the best, most suited roof rack to go for?
I have a Berlina sedan.
Thanks in advance.

I have a VE commodore and use Rhino racks,have been good,quite solid.
Stay away from the Pro Racks from Supercrap Auto's as I had them but after I saw my SUP fly through the air and clip a truck on the freeway with the racks still attached to the board I am a firm believer in buying the best racks you can get.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
24 Jun 2009 10:27am
Actually that reminds me also.... with the Rhino type racks that sit on rubber 'feet' on the roof of the car, the rubber compresses a little eventually and the bolts will then be loose. They need the bolts checked after 6 months of use, they will need another half a turn or so just to nip them up again, and then they will be right forever. Few people have wondered why all of a sudden they lose their racks
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