This is a very entertaining and informative podcast - from two of the UK's top windsurfers.

From coping with the Covid 19 lockdown, to tracking down those secret wave sailing spots, it's all here.

As a podcast, it's sound-only, so you can have it on in the background.

Lucas Meldrum, K579, asks the questions and conducts the mayhem.

No waves were hurt in the course of this recording.