Possible shortage of carbon in the coming years???

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sick_em_rex
sick_em_rex
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6 Nov 2009 12:14pm
I wonder if this will have an effect on the price and supply of carbon into the Windsurfing industry....

http://yahoo.carsales.com.au/news/2009/small-passenger/bmw/deal-done-for-bmws-megacity-17272
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
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NSW, 4188 posts
6 Nov 2009 1:14pm
Why don't we just extract all that extra carbon that we need from the atmosphere?

Fixes that other hoax going around...
ikw777
ikw777
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QLD, 2995 posts
6 Nov 2009 12:38pm
The start of Airbus 380 production caused a shortage of carbon a few years ago - so I am told.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
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6 Nov 2009 4:23pm
I thought the A380 demand was only a problem because it was such a huge amount and suppliers weren't up to the task yet.

I suspect that wherever there's a reasonable demand, someone's going to supply it. If there's a constant demand for producing cars, it may even get cheaper as this means more producers can produce more carbon fiber in order to meet this steady demand.

Is there anything complex about creating it, or is it just that it is expensive to tool up for?
Bertie
Bertie
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6 Nov 2009 7:35pm
actually most aircraft manufacturers are going back to ali for many components.
quicker to make
less quality control issues
easier to simulate in finite element modeling
it seems the gfc is mainly to blame.
dan berry
dan berry
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6 Nov 2009 4:40pm
I was told a few years back that there is a finite amount of carbon on the planet( similar to gold ect). So it may not be as easy as just producing more. Apparently the Nazis stockpiled a heap of it during the war. Youde imagine if there was the ability to mass produce the stuff in todays
market, with the demand, the prices would go down.
NotWal
NotWal
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6 Nov 2009 6:59pm
Back to bamboo then.
nick0
nick0
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6 Nov 2009 8:36pm
.. how is it turned /made into the cloth we use? were does it come from? chemical components//
landyacht
landyacht
WA
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6 Nov 2009 5:59pm
maybe in years to come we could be heating off the resin from old crashed aeroplanes to make our bits
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
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6 Nov 2009 6:01pm
dan berry said...

I was told a few years back that there is a finite amount of carbon on the planet( similar to gold ect). So it may not be as easy as just producing more. Apparently the Nazis stockpiled a heap of it during the war. Youde imagine if there was the ability to mass produce the stuff in todays
market, with the demand, the prices would go down.


Is that a quote from a JP dealer, trying to sell you a limited edition carbon board?

I think it is a synthetic material and probably made from oil, and for the moment, there's plenty of that.
windtechno
windtechno
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6 Nov 2009 9:12pm
i stole it all
nick0
nick0
NSW
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6 Nov 2009 10:29pm
so .. carbon weve is made from oil .... i cant see how u can go from a liquid into carbon cloth ?? anny one can explain the process of makeing carbon cloth
jamesf
jamesf
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6 Nov 2009 10:48pm
Carbon is an element, not synthetic.

Wikipedia has an article on how carbon fibre is produced:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_fiber

cheers
james
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15100 posts
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6 Nov 2009 8:17pm
jamesf said...

Carbon is an element, not synthetic.

Wikipedia has an article on how carbon fibre is produced:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_fiber

cheers
james



Yeah, but carbon fibre is synthetic. (fibre/fiber?)

Here's another wiki article for you:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_fiber
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