Out of spec mast length theory

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nosinkanow
nosinkanow
NSW
441 posts
NSW, 441 posts
10 May 2010 2:45pm
Just need to get my head around the theory of out of spec mast lengths. What happens with a sail's rigging effort, performance and feel if fitted with a too long or too short mast with extension? I know there could possibly be more variables involved (eg. sail design) but generally what would be the result? Uses are non racing.

Here are 2 examples for 2 different size sails using the same mast (460/25);

6.4 - If a sail maker recommends a 430/21 or a 460/25 as an alternative
8.0 - If a sail maker recommends a 490/29 but one uses a 460/25 with correct extension

Does carbon content in a mast make a difference in stiffness?

Thanks.
Gybesports
Gybesports
NSW
193 posts
NSW, 193 posts
10 May 2010 4:50pm
6.4 - If a sail maker recommends a 430/21 or a 460/25 as an alternative
The mast is too long and too stiff.
1 the boom might be too low and below the reinforced section of the mast
2 The sails will have a big knuckle in the luff, rig too full and want to throw you over the front of the board, also will not lay off enough in the gusts and you will not be able to carry it to it's top end wind range.
3 The sails might not rotate when gybing

8.0 - If a sail maker recommends a 490/29 but one uses a 460/25 with correct extension
1 Boom maybe too high and above reinforcing and/or cut out.
2The sail will be too flat this will mean that your 8m sails won't get you planing early like it was designed too You can use a bit less donwhaul but still the shape won't be right. Leach will be too floppy you might get a lot of leach flutter.
P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
10 May 2010 3:48pm
It depends on what type of sail aswell, race sails are pretty specific to what mast the rig on. where as freeride and wave sails without cambers are a bit more forgiving.. but in saying that i don't mean a certin brand of sail on a different brand of mast.

For example, i use Severne sails, so being a heavier guy, i have rigged my 5.0m Blade on both, a 400 as being the proper mast and then on a 430, the sail rigged very similar on both masts but because the 430 was stiffer the sail had more power in it's lower wind range, but this was due to the sail not twisting off as easy but i would say it lost a bit of the higher wind range again from not twisting off in the head.

This would also go the other way, if you run a softer mast, say 400 instead of 430 on a sail intended for a 430 the sail will be softer, twist off alot morewhen powered up, and be less powerfull than intended..

If a mast say from Pryde mast says it's say 460/25 100% and a constant curve and a Gaastra says the same, don't mean they are the same mast and will rig the same..

Higher Carbon content won't make it stiffer but it has better memory so be will more responsive, feel crisper...
nosinkanow
nosinkanow
NSW
441 posts
NSW, 441 posts
10 May 2010 10:27pm
Thanks guys, I was just wondering what to expect, so now I've got an informed idea.
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