Mistral Flow nose repair

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gcgrayza
gcgrayza
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10 Nov 2009 8:10pm
Mishap at Burrum Heads yesterday left my beloved Flow with a nose like Jeff Fennech
No repairers up this way so will need to attack it myself. The thing is, I cant find any info on repairing this type of board. It doesn't seem to be epoxy, just plastic over foam. I have done plenty of Surfboard repairs in my day but nothing of this construction. Boardlady website only deals with epoxy boards with this type of damage. Can anyone point me in the right direction Please..



Bender
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10 Nov 2009 6:25pm
Nebbian did a similar repair(it did involve mr hack saw though) a few years ago to his beloved flow he posted pictures as well. Search his posts and you will find it
gcgrayza
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10 Nov 2009 8:33pm
Thanks Bender. I have no problem with Mr Hacksaw, in fact it was part of the plan. Dang board is too long and pointy anyway! I'll see if I can find the post.
windtechno
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10 Nov 2009 9:40pm
ikw777
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10 Nov 2009 8:46pm
This might help

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=46558&SearchTerms=mistral,flow

A Mod might need to fix the link...
nebbian
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10 Nov 2009 7:47pm
Bender said...

Nebbian did a similar repair(it did involve mr hack saw though) a few years ago to his beloved flow he posted pictures as well. Search his posts and you will find it



Here's mr. Hacksaw:


Pity I can't find my original post though.

I can understand wanting to resurrect your Flow, they are an awesome shape.
gcgrayza
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10 Nov 2009 10:54pm
Yep, the flow is like an old friend that you only catch up with every year or so, but you have a ball every time you do. could not part with it. Besides, it's just too much fun to sail. I found a few old threads, but there were a few conflicting ideas around materials to use. Bondalucci was using epoxy and polyester resin?? As if I want confused to begin with. I guess I really need to understand what the Flow is constructed with. Can anyone enlighten me. It's a Flow 284 Free-ride, 113l. No vent plug, no idea what year as I got it second hand. Sorry about the stupid questions, but ya gotta start somewhere eh! The only stupid question is the one you don't ask
windtechno
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11 Nov 2009 1:23am
nebbian
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10 Nov 2009 10:37pm
Mine was definitely epoxy, normal sandwich construction.

Decrepit has repaired plastic boards like yours before, he cut the nose off, bevelled a very gradual taper on the plastic with rough sandpaper, and used that to stick the fibreglass to.

Good luck, those boards are well worth the effort
ikw777
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11 Nov 2009 9:39am
There were two types of construction. Epoxy sandwich and plastic (I don't know exactly how those were made. The epoxy flows were (I think) normally blue in colour while the plastic boards were green or white.
gcgrayza
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11 Nov 2009 10:37am
nebbian said...


Decrepit has repaired plastic boards like yours before, he cut the nose off, bevelled a very gradual taper on the plastic with rough sandpaper, and used that to stick the fibreglass to.


When you say he stuck fiberglass to the plastic, don't suppose you know what resin he used, epoxy or polyester? Sorry for all the questions but I don't want to get it wrong. I've heard horror stories about 'meltdowns'
Bender
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11 Nov 2009 8:55am
EPOXY
nick0
nick0
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11 Nov 2009 4:32pm
EPOXY ... as i was going thru my boatbuilding aprentiship they taugh me that fiberglass wont stick to anny type of plastic ..
that y we had to sikaflex plastic skin fitting into boats
gcgrayza
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11 Nov 2009 6:07pm
Thanks lads, epoxy it is. Wish me luck, out with the hacksaw tonight I'll post some pics as I go.
nebbian
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11 Nov 2009 5:10pm
Good luck, as Nicko said epoxy won't stick very well to plastic, hence the need to roughen the plastic with rough sandpaper. This will provide mechanical grip.
windykid
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11 Nov 2009 7:42pm
gcgrayza said...

Thanks lads, epoxy it is. Wish me luck, out with the hacksaw tonight I'll post some pics as I go.


so is mr hacksaw going to help with painting the house too.[}:)]
MIKO
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11 Nov 2009 8:24pm
hey grayza,
an epoxy fix will do the job.
What happened , did you run up the eastern boat ramp ?

Miko
windtechno
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11 Nov 2009 9:45pm
i did it
busterwa
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11 Nov 2009 8:27pm
someone already got the factory hacksaw to mine.
my minstral board started falling apart last forghtnight ago ;-( im not sure if im gona get another minstral cause it didnt last that long.
how does a board crack like this? i was out in chop hammering it but surley that didnt do it?



ikw777
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11 Nov 2009 10:41pm
What model is it?

Are you saying someone already modified the nose on this one?
busterwa
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11 Nov 2009 9:06pm
no its a 130 litre minstral explosion noob board.. treated us extremely well had a rough old life !!! im gona let my mates use it and mabe fix it with dimple tape and quickmetal ;-O.
gcgrayza
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11 Nov 2009 11:26pm
windykid said...

gcgrayza said...

Thanks lads, epoxy it is. Wish me luck, out with the hacksaw tonight I'll post some pics as I go.


so is mr hacksaw going to help with painting the house too.[}:)]


No James Mr hacksaw wont be helping to paint the house, but if there is no wind up here when you guys get here on the 4th YOU WILL BE
gcgrayza
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11 Nov 2009 11:40pm
MIKO said...

hey grayza,
an epoxy fix will do the job.
What happened , did you run up the eastern boat ramp ?

Miko


Ran up a ramp indeed, came off a ramp over a shallow bank, board stopped, I didn't, hooked in, boom into nose @ 25-30. Made a horrible noise
GazMan
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12 Nov 2009 12:26am
Got an article from an older Boards mag called 'do your own nose jobs' that I scanned to a pdf file some time ago, if anyone wants a copy then forward your email address to me via Seabreeze email link above and I will send it to you.
gcgrayza
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12 Nov 2009 11:11pm
Hacksaw too slow, looks better already



windtechno
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13 Nov 2009 12:16am
ikw777
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13 Nov 2009 11:38am
I know it had to be done but I'm always sad to see the nose cut off a Flow.

I like 'em pointy.
mineral1
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13 Nov 2009 11:50am
gcgrayza said...

Hacksaw too slow, looks better already






It already looks better
Paul Kelf
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13 Nov 2009 1:42pm
busterwa said...

someone already got the factory hacksaw to mine.
my minstral board started falling apart last forghtnight ago ;-( im not sure if im gona get another minstral cause it didnt last that long.
how does a board crack like this? i was out in chop hammering it but surley that didnt do it?






That's not falling apart, that's clearly damage from catapualts and any board will look like that after continual beatings.
busterwa
busterwa
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13 Nov 2009 3:35pm
gcgrazza that board look like mine now !!!!
ill have to get a die grinder out and chase the cracks and refill. its ok i have a new board now ;-)) alot smaller and 200 percent lighter was an exceptional learning board and yes that was my catapult king board...
gcgrayza
gcgrayza
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23 Nov 2009 6:39pm
Taking shape, but a shaper I am not. Respect to those guys who can tame a power tool in the presence of polystyrene. Down from 284 to 255 now. Managed to get some epoxy but cure time is 80 mins. Not a bad thing I guess when it's your first crack at it. did a test on the off cut to avoid a meltdown. All good, will start glassing tonight. Thanks for all of your tips so far.



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