John Carter from the UK arguably the world’s best Windsurfing photographer has confirmed that he will be at the 2010 Lancelin Ocean Classic.

This is great news for the event, Lancelin and sport of windsurfing as he has guaranteed event coverage in all the major Windsurfing magazines in the world as well as other mainstream mag’s.

If you see him around for the 4 days of the event make sure you say hi as he is a great guy.

Bertie said...

so what does john look like?? or do i just look for the guy with a camera??

I was wondering the same thing.

or do we just be friendly West Australians and say Hi to everybody ?

He looks like Tom cruze all the girls love him

Laurie, in general the moderators of this forum do a great job in keeping it a friendly place and keeping angst to a minimum.
There are however, some affairs that need to be discussed and some facts which need to be brought out into the open, especially when they are "from the horse's mouth" and not just hearsay..
That is what a forum is for.

if your going to remove mass posts to stop agro then remove all the posts.
not some and leave others. fairs fair

I have sent an email to LOC with my opinion about all this and the history that may be lost.

Not sharing it in here.

so what it is exactly that people are getting hung up about?

stehsegler said...

so what it is exactly that people are getting hung up about?

I've sent you a link feel free to pass it on.

PM's the "underground" forum

thanks for sending the link to the "other forum" Rider5.

Hm... I can understand why Col would be upset.

Personally I know a number of photographers that have given up on covering any type of water sport including windsurfing. Why? The list of reasons is long but here a short selection of what I have been told: companies don't value photography, companies disregard copyright and intellectual property, the financial rewards are so poor you can't run a business from it...

In regards to not using Cols services... I guess we do live in a free market economy where companies can choose to hire who ever they want to hire... in my experience favours in the form of freebees never pay back in the long run. That's why I have given up on them a long time ago. You want my services you have to pay cold hard cash. End of story.

I am guessing Col will think twice about spending his own time and money for this sort of thing in the future.

Now let's all go back to posting juvenile photos and message such as the one in this thread: www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59355

I agree with shludhger, you should never perform "favours" unless they are simultaneously reciprocated. As far as paying cold hard cash for services, good luck with that Tommy.

Robert Goyen said...
This is great news for the event, Lancelin and sport of windsurfing as he has guaranteed event coverage in all the major Windsurfing magazines in the world as well as other mainstream mag’s.

Robert, you obviously don't know much about the editorial process in the publishing world. No one has a publishing guarantee. Not even if your name is Annie Leibowitz and you do the gig for free.

John might have an agreement in place that they will consider a mention in the "feel good section" at the beginning of the mag if there is space and the editor sees it fit but that's about it. Any other space in a mag is generally booked 6 to 12 months in advance.

There are other ways around this of course (eg brand x buys x pages of advertising and in return gets a story which is essence is an advertorial without actually calling it that). It's common place in the computer and entertainment industry. I believe similar forced where at work with that F2 sponsored West OZ dvd a few years ago which got huge coverage in disguise as a travel report in a number of European Magazines.

Not sure if John still works for Boards Magazine. I guess if he does that would mean a 2 or more page coverage because the editor would get the photos at no cost.