Yes, because you learn the muscle memory and skill combinations get recorded in your neural circuitry, whule it will be more difficult in non-ideal conditions, you've been hardwired. The hardwiring is much more difficult to develop in less than ideal conditions and particularly if you do it by trial and error rather than learning correctly at first,

sboardcrazy said...

hardie said...

Yes, because you learn the muscle memory and skill combinations get recorded in your neural circuitry, whule it will be more difficult in non-ideal conditions, you've been hardwired. The hardwiring is much more difficult to develop in less than ideal conditions and particularly if you do it by trial and error rather than learning correctly at first,

Grr.. So true..

Unfortunately yes, its how human memory and learning works, feels almost impossible for an old dog like me to learn the tricks of freestyle windsurfing even tho I'm very competent, but I've got 26 years of learning memory and neural circuitry to retrain

sboardcrazy said...

I've asked this a few times in other topics but no one ever notices so..Ok so you go away to a Guy Cribb clinic or similar in perfect condtions somewhere & crack that carve gybe or chop hop..Does the skill translate to our crappy gusty only occasional windy conditions over here or do you lose it after being home for while when you can't practise regularly.

Yeah? No one notices?

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Gybing-clinic-for-Lake-Macquarie/?SearchTerms=safety+bay

Hmmm... maybe 'someone' doesn't notice

So, yes, again, it does translate to our conditions in NSW as you learn the technique and once that is down pat, it is easier here. You only have to modify your technique slightly to handle different conditions once you have learnt the core of a move.

In a recent trip to Safety Bay it was a bit choppier than usual and a different wind direction. It was a welcome change as it made me have to think about gybing and weighting the rail enough to stop it from bouncing.

FormulaNova said...

sboardcrazy said...

I've asked this a few times in other topics but no one ever notices so..Ok so you go away to a Guy Cribb clinic or similar in perfect condtions somewhere & crack that carve gybe or chop hop..Does the skill translate to our crappy gusty only occasional windy conditions over here or do you lose it after being home for while when you can't practise regularly.

Yeah? No one notices?

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Gybing-clinic-for-Lake-Macquarie/?SearchTerms=safety+bay

Hmmm... maybe 'someone' doesn't notice

So, yes, again, it does translate to our conditions in NSW as you learn the technique and once that is down pat, it is easier here. You only have to modify your technique slightly to handle different conditions once you have learnt the core of a move.

In a recent trip to Safety Bay it was a bit choppier than usual and a different wind direction. It was a welcome change as it made me have to think about gybing and weighting the rail enough to stop it from bouncing.

I'm old enough to blame senility...

so lets say you go to a clinic and the coach watches you and tells you that every time, you go into a gybe, you pull back - trying to counter the anticipated weight of the sail, but really just bogging the tail and stalling the turn. he now wants you step into the gybe, leaning forward so that your hips are well over the centreline. try again for me he says.

so you do. as you come back in and initiate the gybe he's yelling at you "hips inboard!". but you don't quite get there, but over the next few gybes, you're watched and encouraged to commit to the turn and suddenly you do it! it's kind of accidental and all happens so fast that you bollocks up the rig flip, but hey, the carve felt sweet, and inexplicably just 'right'. you now know the feeling you're going for, and even something about how to achieve it. the rest is practice.

sure the conditions when you come back might be different but the principles are now in your mind, and you proved you can do it.

you have "leveled up". congrats, you're now a better windsurfer!

Trousers said...

so lets say you go to a clinic and the coach watches you and tells you that every time, you go into a gybe, you pull back - trying to counter the anticipated weight of the sail, but really just bogging the tail and stalling the turn. he now wants you step into the gybe, leaning forward so that your hips are well over the centreline. try again for me he says.

so you do. as you come back in and initiate the gybe he's yelling at you "hips inboard!". but you don't quite get there, but over the next few gybes, you're watched and encouraged to commit to the turn and suddenly you do it! it's kind of accidental and all happens so fast that you bollocks up the rig flip, but hey, the carve felt sweet, and inexplicably just 'right'. you now know the feeling you'regoing for, and even something about how to achieve it. the rest is practice.

sure the conditions when you come back might be different but the principles are now in your mind, and you proved you can do it.

you have "leveled up". congrats, you're now a better windsurfer!

Thats how I felt after the last windy session.. I finally knew how it felt to keep forward & low.. problem is I don't really know how to replicate it..[}:)]