Hydrophobic Coating for your board

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barbarian
barbarian
NSW
220 posts
NSW, 220 posts
8 Feb 2013 8:38pm
Just watched this video and wondered what you guys thought would be the effect in terms of extra performance of painting the underside of a board? I know the slalom/speed guys who are looking for am edge will have something to say!

http://m.wimp.com/oleophobiccoating/
stroppo
stroppo
WA
748 posts
WA, 748 posts
8 Feb 2013 5:50pm
I saw this at work today on the net amazing stuff it shore is a slipery sucker i wondered how it would go under the board to when i saw it to mmmm????
jsnfok
jsnfok
WA
899 posts
WA, 899 posts
8 Feb 2013 7:23pm
would it actully be effective at 80+ kay an our
Subsonic
Subsonic
WA
3413 posts
WA, 3413 posts
8 Feb 2013 8:11pm
I dunno that it'd be that beneficial.

Slippery and fast for sure, but if the board is THAT slippery it'd probably slide out way too easily, control is part of the game too No?
Ian K
Ian K
WA
4169 posts
WA, 4169 posts
8 Feb 2013 9:08pm
Nah, that's surface tension dominating a small droplet of water. Boundary layer theories have stood the test of time for a century of more. And I'll bet, another century on, (if the human race can support a windsurfing population until then) we'll still be rubbing the bottoms with 1200 grit wet and dry to go fast.

Riblets based on shark skin may be one theoretical way of improving on the low drag of a flat smooth surface.

royalsocietypublishing.org/action/cookieAbsent

According to this study they work by impeding the escape of the longitudinal vortices which form next to the surface in turbulent flow. But even then they only reduce drag by a couple of percent and they have to be carefully tuned to the flow conditions.
P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
8 Feb 2013 9:37pm
Boards are sanded on the bottom becuse it makes water stick to it, water through water is faster than air through water. This is how the olympic swimming suits work, also the tape they tried on the old america's cup boats.

The direction the bottom is sanded is kinda obvious in that the water will flow in the direction of the grooves that have been sanded in it, even 1200 wet and dry makes fine sanding marks..

This stuff is cool as, but would prob make you go alot slower.. a gloss bottom board feels sticky to get planning were as a dull bottom board don't.

would be awesome for wetsuits, harness etc..
Macroscien
Macroscien
QLD
6809 posts
QLD, 6809 posts
9 Feb 2013 12:25am
Ian K said...
Nah, that's surface tension dominating a small droplet of water. Boundary layer theories have stood the test of time for a century of more. And I'll bet, another century on, (if the human race can support a windsurfing population until then) we'll still be rubbing the bottoms with 1200 grit wet and dry to go fast.

Riblets based on shark skin may be one theoretical way of improving on the low drag of a flat smooth surface.

royalsocietypublishing.org/action/cookieAbsent

According to this study they work by impeding the escape of the longitudinal vortices which form next to the surface in turbulent flow. But even then they only reduce drag by a couple of percent and they have to be carefully tuned to the flow conditions.

I invented sort of caterpillar so boat or ship has almost no friction against water regardless of the speed ...because is stationery against water surface...
just some technical issue need tweaking
SeanAUS120
SeanAUS120
QLD
769 posts
QLD, 769 posts
9 Feb 2013 1:46pm
I've seen a ton of people on the slalom/formula tour (myself included at some point) using Holmenkol. Noticed a lot of the Olympic sailors at the time (circa 2006-08) were using it to polish their boats... it's nano-technology.

Could never tell the difference to be honest after tons (and LITERALLY tons) of side-by-side tests.

Seemed like too much effort so don't use it anymore. Interestingly Holmenkol do a product which I haven't tried which is supposed to be sprayed on sails to stop them holding water ... could be pretty cool for reducing rig weight. Was FREAKING expensive though...

It is VERY important to have a smooth, clean board ... one big thing I notice from sailing in different oceans all the time is you get a lot of brown gunk stains on your board from sailing in the sea a lot. Good to wet/dry sand that off and make sure any repairs on the bottom of your board are SMOOTH ;-)
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