How to find out sail size - not marked on sail

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gregwed
gregwed
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1 Jun 2012 12:03pm
How do you find out a sail's size when it is not marked on the sail? Can it be measured?

I have an Arrows Flight Freestyle sail, I think around 2004 age. Gold and silver in colour. Searched the web and only found 2005 onwards and some of this refers to a gold/silver sail of 2004 vintage, but no stats or photo's.

Cheers
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
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1 Jun 2012 12:11pm
Lay it over sails you know the size of? This would give an estimate at least unless the sails are completely different in shape.


Cambodge
Cambodge
VIC
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1 Jun 2012 12:29pm
Rig it and go for a sail. Then if...

Underpowered => size = too small
Overpowered => size = too big
Comfortably powered => size = just right

(for more details please consult the Goldilocks manual)
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
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1 Jun 2012 2:18pm
There is a way to measure but it is overly complicated, one of the old raceboard boffins will be able to tell you.

Take a closer inspection around the foot, on proto sails it is often written in pen under tack or on the foot panel.

If that fails easiest way other than overlaying is rig to find out mast & boom measurements, then compare to other similar sails of that period.
Squid Lips
Squid Lips
WA
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1 Jun 2012 2:12pm
Might have to get out the grade 5 maths books and see how to calculate area.
JayBee
JayBee
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1 Jun 2012 4:26pm
Luff Length (m) X Boom length (m) X 0.75 will get you as close as you will ever need.

4.64 (mast) *1.94 (Boom) *0.75=6.7m^2

The reason its 0.75 instead of 0.5 is to take into account the roaches. The roach factor could be anywhere from 0.7 to 0.8 but it shdol eb close enough.

JB
sideskirt
sideskirt
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328 posts
1 Jun 2012 2:33pm
That's pretty close, but in my cases it gives 0,3m^2 more than actual size. But still good.
StakaFlaka
StakaFlaka
WA
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1 Jun 2012 9:03pm
Check out maui ultra fins site. I remember seeing it showing you how to calcutate fin area. Should be the same for a sail I think

http://www.mauiultrafins.com/MUF7_english/FAQ.html
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
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1 Jun 2012 10:57pm
Squid Lips said...

Might have to get out the grade 5 maths books and see how to calculate area.

Given the many curves etc I'd reckon you might get out the uni calculus books.

Brien
Brien
NSW
172 posts
NSW, 172 posts
2 Jun 2012 2:53am
Just pin it out flat and break it up into 4 triangles. The one which will encompass the luff curve you can multiply by something like .66 to allow for the curve. It is primary school maths, no calculus or differentiation needed. But it would be much easier to lay it over similiar sails and make an educated guess.

JustinL
JustinL
NSW
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2 Jun 2012 8:02am
Interesting to know
The RSX is class legal as a race board. Race board sails are 9.5m max. If you lay the RSX sail over a 9.5m sail it is bigger.
I have read the RSX 9.5 is actually 9.8m
Squid Lips
Squid Lips
WA
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2 Jun 2012 11:02pm
dinsdale said...

Squid Lips said...

Might have to get out the grade 5 maths books and see how to calculate area.

Given the many curves etc I'd reckon you might get out the uni calculus books.




Since sail sizes are rounded off to 0.1m^2 (about 2 A4 sheets of paper) you wouldn't lose much accuracy by breaking the curves into a few triangles
Squid Lips
Squid Lips
WA
708 posts
WA, 708 posts
2 Jun 2012 11:04pm
Cambodge said...

Rig it and go for a sail. Then if...

Underpowered => size = too small
Overpowered => size = too big
Comfortably powered => size = just right

(for more details please consult the Goldilocks manual)


Sounds like the new Naish sizing
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