Help for a friend who's in denial

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Wet Willy
Wet Willy
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4 Nov 2008 12:55am
This is odd, I remember [NAME DELETED] said in a post waaaaaay back:

"I have been planing for the longest time & I am in the harness and footstraps! Please stop observing and criticising me and focus on your own things."

This was on a thread discussing NP sails, and she'd mentioned that she really liked her new Hellcat. I was kind of trying to egg her along a bit because she's been windsurfing almost as long as me (well, more than 2 years compared to my 3.5) and as far as I could see she was getting nowhere so slowly that it was becoming painful to watch. Even after trips to Vietnam and Bali. I didn't want her to miss out on all the fun, and maybe eventually give up. Sure I was egging her on, maybe having a bit of a tease, but you need a thick skin on this forum and anyway it was done with a smile and good intentions.

So I was quite happy to hear that she's "been planing for the longest time & [she's]in the harness and footstraps!" And I confirmed this with her verbally the following weekend at the beach, in what was a strangely awkward conversation.

So, it's 2 months later and I've seen her out in good planing wind a grand total of 2 times, dragging along with the front foot in it's strap...not really planing, not going for that back strap...not looking like it's really happening at all...

What I wanna know is, WTF?????


(I'd put the question to her personally but I seem to be getting the icy treatment all of a sudden)


wormy
wormy
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4 Nov 2008 6:29am
Are you talking about your other self again willy
Leman
Leman
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4 Nov 2008 9:07am
First of all there are so few female sailors that I wouldn't do anything that might make us loose one.

Secondly, you're walking on dangerous ground critising a female ... My girlfriend would hit me for that comment but at the same time agree with me.

All I can say is good luck!
AUS-057
AUS-057
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4 Nov 2008 8:15am
If she is enjoying what she is doing then good on her. We all take our own enjoyment from the sport at no matter what level.
Harrow
Harrow
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4 Nov 2008 9:40am
Willy, the light bulb has to WANT to change.
Richiefish
Richiefish
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4 Nov 2008 9:07am
like Cleopatra after her barge sunk.........(in de nile)
Rad Lad
Rad Lad
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4 Nov 2008 9:08am
Wet One - the teacher will appear when the student is ready.
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
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4 Nov 2008 9:14am
DNFTT
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
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4 Nov 2008 11:19am
grumplestiltskin said...

DNFTT


U mean...Do Not F-something Try That?
Richiefish
Richiefish
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4 Nov 2008 10:26am
wwooooa, Grasshopper, when you can snatch the pebble from my YOU LITTLE PRICK !!!
pierrec45
pierrec45
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2005 posts
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4 Nov 2008 11:57am
With some people, having an opinion = criticising.

And it's good that you confirmed orally with her...

Seriously, I'd tend to drop it. Lotsa people aren't as good as I think they should be, and that includes myself. If they have a good time, and she's not complaining she's too good for the wind, so what?
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
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4 Nov 2008 12:49pm
pierrec45 said...


And it's good that you confirmed orally with her...





I said VERBALLY, not ORALLY!!!! Please!
Richiefish
Richiefish
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4 Nov 2008 11:53am
I think you love her
555
555
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555 555
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4 Nov 2008 11:08am
There's planing, and then there's planing. Video is a great way to sort out the difference between the two. Then there's also no chance of saying "but I don't do that, and I'm doing exactly what you say anyway [you useless prick]".

Wet Willy: Boldly going where wise-men choose not to tread.
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
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4 Nov 2008 1:10pm
Richiefish said...

I think you love her


I DO NOT!!

Hmmmm, wait a sec...right age, right gender (that's important)...nah, I don't think we click that way. Just a friend.
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
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4 Nov 2008 1:12pm
555 said...


Wet Willy: Boldly going where wise-men choose not to tread.


I love it! Can I make that my slogan??
Pugwash
Pugwash
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4 Nov 2008 11:41am
555 said...

Wet Willy: Boldly going where wise-men choose not to tread.


Or is that:

Wet Willy: Boldly going where wise-men choose not to thread.
pierrec45
pierrec45
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5 Nov 2008 12:58pm
Wet Willy said...

pierrec45 said...


And it's good that you confirmed orally with her...

I said VERBALLY, not ORALLY!!!! Please!

So did you have a chance to oral... I mean to talk to her since?
NotWal
NotWal
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6 Nov 2008 4:05am
Not quite planing in the straps? hmmmm Lets seeeee...

1) Move straps in and forward.
2) Rig a bit bigger &/or sheet in more
3) More weight on the booms, less on the feet.

That's the recipe Fiona if you're reading this.

Wet Willy, it was kind and selfless of you to help her indirectly like this. Inside that gross exterior beats the heart of a true gentleman.

I think he loves you Fiona.
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
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6 Nov 2008 11:22am
You guys are evil
pierrec45
pierrec45
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6 Nov 2008 12:41pm
Seriously, a woman gets up at 5:30 in the morning to make her face up.
Do you really believe she wants to hear the truth ?

(Faintest of smileys here.)
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
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6 Nov 2008 12:42pm
Willy,

Its not good form to critise someone's sailing ability, especially not in person where critisism can be constructive. Personally I wouldn't like it if someone here talked about my inability to gybe, jump, go fast, tack, handle strong or light winds, waterstart, and ability to be a kook was brought up here.
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
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6 Nov 2008 1:00pm
Mobydisc said...

Willy,

Its not good form to critise someone's sailing ability, especially not in person where critisism can be constructive. Personally I wouldn't like it if someone here talked about my inability to gybe, jump, go fast, tack, handle strong or light winds, waterstart, and ability to be a kook was brought up here.



Of course. And I wouldn't like to be criticised like that either. That's not the point; the point is WTF???? Why would she post here that she's planing and in the straps, and tell me she is, when she's not? What possible good could it do?

OK, I had an ulterior motive. I've always liked her. As a friend only. But it seems that she has recently decided not to talk to me anymore; no reason given, but I suspect it's because her dear friend, Singapore's only windsurfing ladyboy, has been whispering strange and untrue things about me. Just a theory. So if I can't talk to her in person without being snobbed off, why not make a big scene on Seabreeze, eh?

Wa-hey!!


Boldly going, etc...

Personally I like Pierre's idea of dropping the whole thing. All those in favour?
pierrec45
pierrec45
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6 Nov 2008 1:07pm
I still think you should oralise, I mean say your piece one last time...
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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6 Nov 2008 2:13pm
Wet Willy said...

Mobydisc said...

Willy,

Its not good form to critise someone's sailing ability, especially not in person where critisism can be constructive. Personally I wouldn't like it if someone here talked about my inability to gybe, jump, go fast, tack, handle strong or light winds, waterstart, and ability to be a kook was brought up here.



her dear friend, Singapore's only windsurfing ladyboy,




This is getting better..........
dism
dism
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660 posts
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6 Nov 2008 5:06pm
Wet Willy et al. is turning this into Windsurfing's version of the Bold and the Beautiful

But yeah, Fiona is being quiet!
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