Gluing EVA deck after a board repair

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nosinkanow
nosinkanow
NSW
441 posts
NSW, 441 posts
2 Apr 2010 8:46pm
OK I've been getting too in front of myself and took the Kona into some small surf before I could get my gybes down and went over the bars. Result is I put the boom head into the nose's flat section and put a 140mm split with a shallow caved-in bit. I've fixed that with epoxy putty but now looking at how to glue down the deck as I've cut out a section larger than the work area for accessability.

What is the safest "glue" to use? I'm not sure if the Kona's are epoxy skinned, but it sure looks like it. Should I find some epoxy glue from the hardware store or it doesn't need to be that fancy? I've heard that silicon can do the job but I think it might be a little suss in the adhesion department. Any ideas anyone?
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
2 Apr 2010 7:04pm
You need contact cement. It's what everyone uses.

Also you might want to check out boardlady.com/ for some ideas
sailpilot
sailpilot
QLD
787 posts
QLD, 787 posts
2 Apr 2010 9:22pm
Yep contact is the go. But remember to put some markings on the board and decking with dark pencil before you wack it on. Its a one try thing once the contact has tacked off. If its a large piece, I like to mark the centreline and roll each side up to the marks, place the centres correctly then roll outward and give it a good rub.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15100 posts
WA, 15100 posts
2 Apr 2010 9:09pm
I tried water-based contact cement on one of my boards a few weeks ago because of the promise that it dries clear. It is hopeless. It doesn't set anywhere near as well as gel-grip or kwik-grip, and will only go off if spread thin enough to dry quickly. From reading the board lady's site, it seems it probably won't stay well adhered either.

On the other hand gel-grip and kwik-grip are coloured and with my lack of care usually means a big clean up of the excess which gets everywhere.

Anyone know a glue as good as gel-grip but dries clear?

keef
keef
NSW
2016 posts
NSW, 2016 posts
3 Apr 2010 12:31am
FormulaNova said...



Anyone know a glue as good as gel-grip but dries clear?
i haven't used gel-grip but 3M spray pack works unlike the normal contact, if you stick it when its still sticky it remaims sticky, where contact goes hard and yellow's ,



nosinkanow
nosinkanow
NSW
441 posts
NSW, 441 posts
3 Apr 2010 2:04am
Thanks for the feedback peoples. I remembered the Boardlady and found this, perfect. boardlady.com/softopbuckle.htm

It was a quick and dirty repair unlike the Boardlady's professional approach. Mine's not the prettiest of repairs but it looks OK in my eye, it blends in with the rest of the board's worn look. In hindsight I would have cut a whole section out from black pinstripe to the other black pinstripe rather than a small rectangular section as I have so you don't see too many edges in the EVA. First epoxy/EVA repair I've done so it was an interesting process.



Above shows the crack and caved-in bit. I think somebody in the factory bled on the skin. The longest bit of the job was cutting under the foam to free it from the deck, used an "Exacto" knife as the blade bends, sort of like filleting a fish. Scraped off bits of foam and rough sanded around the cracks and blew it clean.



I used an epoxy putty stick, kneaded it and pressed it into the crack and feathered the edges. Smoothed it out with a wet finger. Waste of time as the next pic shows.



To get the dried putty more level I used a chisel and scraped it, worked well. Left a criss-cross pattern to allow better glue adhesion with the foam. If I removed a larger section of foam I could have used a grinder. But it didn't take long anyway with a chisel, had a beer next to me so I was happy.



I used contact cement as recommended by the Boardlady, for shoe repairs, and spread it with a bit of card to both surfaces. Let it go tacky for around 3 minutes, stuck the EVA bits down and lightly wacked it with a rubber mallet till I couldn't hear anymore trapped air popping and all done. Well I hope it was trapped air not the epoxy cracking![}:)]

Not including the curing time of the epoxy (1 hour) I reckon I knocked this over in under half an hour.

It's now ready for another crash test, hoping to sail tomorrow, we're expecting 20-25knots S/SW and I've done garden chores today and scored some brownie points . I think I'll stay in the lake and practice my high speed gybes and finally use the harness and foot straps again, it's been so long! Then again if the surf is OK I might....nah I better do more practice before I go out there again....soooo tempting!

Fashioning a boom protector now. It's a long weekend and I've got nothing to do tonight!
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
3 Apr 2010 9:19am
I spent yesterday doing the final repairs to one of my boards, made new footpads from eva tiles from clark rubber, shaped them, glued them down (spray-contact adhesive for laminate - ex-joiner!), and last night gave the board a coat of polyurethane lacquer with a sprinkle of sugar! Ugly board, as there's no graphics, but today will be the test! (here's hoping)
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