Fitting a fin

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Mr Milk
Mr Milk
NSW
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11 Jan 2022 3:20pm
I just received a new weed fin. Checking to see if it fits the board I find that I can't tighten the screw.
Closer inspection shows me that the barrel nut is just slightly off alignment, but I can't budge it with a normal screwdriver.
Anybody got a tip for how I can loosen it enough to twist just a little to get it right?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
11 Jan 2022 1:38pm
Mr Milk said..
I just received a new weed fin. Checking to see if it fits the board I find that I can't tighten the screw.
Closer inspection shows me that the barrel nut is just slightly off alignment, but I can't budge it with a normal screwdriver.
Anybody got a tip for how I can loosen it enough to twist just a little to get it right?



Screw the bolt in, then use the screw as your lever to rotate the barrel nut.
If you still cant, put fin in the vice and gentle use of hammer on the screw.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
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WA, 12872 posts
11 Jan 2022 2:04pm
If that doesn't do it, (and it should), heat and cold may help. I think I'd try the freezer first, I have an inkling that the expansion rate of brass is greater than fibreglass, so cooling it may just loosen the nut. Certainly brass will conduct quicker, so timing could be important. If you remove from the freezer once the brass has contracted, but before the fibreglass has, that should help.

The other possibility is that heating and expanding the nut could compress the fibreglass enough so that once it cools it will be loose.

Good luck anyway.
If you succeed get back here with the method
Mr Milk
Mr Milk
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NSW, 3137 posts
11 Jan 2022 6:18pm
The bolt I have comes from a JP board. The new fin is Unifiber. Is it possible that part of the problem might be US vs metric sizes?
It makes a horrible squeaking sound if I try to force the bolt in
Imax1
Imax1
QLD
4937 posts
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11 Jan 2022 6:39pm
All fin bolts should be M6.
Try the bolt In another fin . If it fits it's the right thread .
You probably need to run a M6 tap through the fin nut . It's possibly not tapped through all the way . Make sure the bolt is not too long .
cald
cald
QLD
164 posts
QLD, 164 posts
11 Jan 2022 7:42pm
I have a fin where the nuts are a bigger diameter. But are not drilled all the way through, so the bolt is only ever going to go a certain way into it. Pain in the ar$e. Before I realised this was the case I was thinking it was a thread or alignment issue but it's just these weird nuts.
segler
segler
WA
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12 Jan 2022 12:37am
Not quite all fin bolts/inserts are M6. If the fin happened to have come from the USA, there is some chance that it is 1/4-20.

Yes, first figure all this out without inserting the fin into the board.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
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12 Jan 2022 8:40am
Imax1 said..
All fin bolts should be M6.>


I disagree mate, I have to sets of fin bolts, metric and imperial. But I think the imperial stuff is older.
And yes if the nut isn't misaligned, and the bolt starts ok, but then gets tighter after a turn or two, it could well be miss matched threads. So the question then is which way round, imperial bolt, metric nut, or vice versa. Tapping the nut with an M6 tap, isn't a bad idea, if it goes easy, you need a metric bolt. If it goes hard, then you have a thread that matches your bolt. But it will have slightly reduced strength.
Mr Milk
Mr Milk
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14 Jan 2022 12:51pm
OK, I have it almost fixed.
Freezing it didn't seem to have an effect. Banging it with a hammer has centred it in the fin.
Sadly, I managed to damage the thread (or the thread was already bad) when I was initially trying to force the bolt in.
So I bought another M6 bolt with a hex head and used that with a spanner to cut the thread again.
There is still a slight verticality problem with the screw so that the fin is not sitting perfectly flush in the board, but I think I'll find a way to rotate the barrel nut a degree or so to correct that
kato
kato
VIC
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VIC, 3527 posts
14 Jan 2022 5:41pm
Mr Milk said..
OK, I have it almost fixed.
Freezing it didn't seem to have an effect. Banging it with a hammer has centred it in the fin.
Sadly, I managed to damage the thread (or the thread was already bad) when I was initially trying to force the bolt in.
So I bought another M6 bolt with a hex head and used that with a spanner to cut the thread again.
There is still a slight verticality problem with the screw so that the fin is not sitting perfectly flush in the board, but I think I'll find a way to rotate the barrel nut a degree or so to correct that


If the thread is damaged, I'd drill out barrel bolt and fit a new one. Not worth re tapping brass
Imax1
Imax1
QLD
4937 posts
QLD, 4937 posts
14 Jan 2022 4:50pm
kato said..

Mr Milk said..
OK, I have it almost fixed.
Freezing it didn't seem to have an effect. Banging it with a hammer has centred it in the fin.
Sadly, I managed to damage the thread (or the thread was already bad) when I was initially trying to force the bolt in.
So I bought another M6 bolt with a hex head and used that with a spanner to cut the thread again.
There is still a slight verticality problem with the screw so that the fin is not sitting perfectly flush in the board, but I think I'll find a way to rotate the barrel nut a degree or so to correct that



If the thread is damaged, I'd drill out barrel bolt and fit a new one. Not worth re tapping brass


Knock out barrel nut with a punch .
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