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Upthere
Upthere
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26 Oct 2008 6:32pm
Whilst planing a trip to WA to compete in the Youth tittles at Mandurah and possibly the Ledge to Lancelin and i have come across a big problem. EXCESS BAGGAGE from what most of the airline sites say, 23 kg's is the max. I can't ship the gear over there from Brissy cause i wont have time, so the only option is to put through baggage when i fly over.

If anyone has had any experience with this problem of EXCESS BAGGAGE, any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

PS. What's Lucky Caravan Park in Mandurah like
aus301
aus301
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26 Oct 2008 8:12pm
What airline are you heading over with? Virgin is really cool to to deal with, Qantas not so great.

It's worth giving the airline a call ahead of time to talk about your specific requirements, and always say you are travelling for a competition, I have found that usually opens up an extra door or two.
Upthere
Upthere
QLD
348 posts
QLD, 348 posts
26 Oct 2008 8:26pm
Yeah i going with virgin as its heaps cheaper and hasn't had dilemmas like Qantas has had over the last few months.

Apparently all of the baggage rules changes as of the first of september this year. So i'm a bit unsure.
gregfarq
gregfarq
NSW
17 posts
NSW, 17 posts
26 Oct 2008 9:37pm
Yeah I took a copy of the Notice of Race, and best to phone in advance and check if thats ok, then check your gear in and talk to them and they were fine for me. This was 10 years ago, and with QANTAS, I did only have one board, sail, mast etc, go Mistral One Designs.
Hausey
Hausey
NSW
325 posts
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26 Oct 2008 10:28pm
Get a kiteboard - problem solved!

Windsurfer's suffer from a bit a excess baggage - especially those that travel with them .....
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
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26 Oct 2008 8:38pm
aus301 said...

What airline are you heading over with? Virgin is really cool to to deal with, Qantas not so great.

It's worth giving the airline a call ahead of time to talk about your specific requirements, and always say you are travelling for a competition, I have found that usually opens up an extra door or two.



As someone else has said, this has changed since September. They now give you an extra 5kg (for a total of 28kg) as its sporting equipment, but then charge you $8 a kilo after that! The first 23kg costs you $20 or $8 depending on how you book.

Qantas only charge $22 per extra bag/item, so as long as they serve that route (and not Jetstar!), you should be okay. At $22 per item, its still going to be cheaper than VB rates if you have a fair bit of gear.

If you are booked with VB, change to Qantas. Having said that, I flew with VB after the rules changed and they didn't charge me anything, but I think that was just my winning personality
FormulaNova
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26 Oct 2008 8:44pm
Upthere said...

Whilst planing a trip to WA to compete in the Youth tittles at Mandurah and possibly the Ledge to Lancelin and i have come across a big problem. EXCESS BAGGAGE from what most of the airline sites say, 23 kg's is the max. I can't ship the gear over there from Brissy cause i wont have time, so the only option is to put through baggage when i fly over.

If anyone has had any experience with this problem of EXCESS BAGGAGE, any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

PS. What's Lucky Caravan Park in Mandurah like


One of the things that has worked for me is checking in super early, i.e. when the airport has just opened. That way there are no people in the oversize luggage lines and if you get a decent check in person they can often give you a break as they aren't exactly short of luggage space for that flight when its 6 hours later... It also means I can drive the stuff in the car to the airport and then drive home and catch the train to the airport hours later.

We have travelled Qantas from Sydney to Perth and they could charge us $22 per item, but on the way there they charged us less, and on the way back charged us only for 2 extra items instead of 3. I was pretty happy with that at the time, but even if they charged for 3 I would have still been okay with it.
Harrow
Harrow
NSW
4521 posts
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26 Oct 2008 10:46pm
When are they gonna start making the passenger stand on the scales with their luggage???

Why do I have to pay for a couple of kilos of baggage, when the guy in front of me gets to take his 40kg beer gut on for free ?? !!!!
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15100 posts
WA, 15100 posts
26 Oct 2008 8:54pm
Harrow said...

When are they gonna start making the passenger stand on the scales with their luggage???

Why do I have to pay for a couple of kilos of baggage, when the guy in front of me gets to take his 40kg beer gut on for free ?? !!!!


Or in my case, 60kgs of windsurfing gear and a beer gut! I'm not quite sure if its 40kgs though. How do I weigh it?

I guess the simple answer is 'because they can make money from excessive baggage charges'.
Upthere
Upthere
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26 Oct 2008 10:02pm
The comps at the end of the year so I'm just trying to plan it all now. This is so i don't have gear floating around the country cause some of it won't get on the flight. I have heard far to many horror stories from Sean Obrien.

Just a quick question i have also heard that there is a restriction on the size of gear is this true.


FormulaNova
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WA
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26 Oct 2008 9:20pm
Upthere said...

The comps at the end of the year so I'm just trying to plan it all now. This is so i don't have gear floating around the country cause some of it won't get on the flight. I have heard far to many horror stories from Sean Obrien.

Just a quick question i have also heard that there is a restriction on the size of gear is this true.





Qantas have info on their website that talks about windsurfing gear as not being able to be taken as the masts are too long, which obviously refers to really old equipment when the masts were one piece. I went to the trouble of calling the baggage people at the airport to see if this was going to be a problem. I spoke to the Qantas 'baggage master' who told me it was no problem.

I have travelled with Qantas from Sydney to Perth and back and had no problems.

Recently when trying to get back from Mackay to Sydney I looked at the flights out from Qantas and some were Jetstar and the others Qantas Link. Jetstar have a 2m maximum length limit and from what I have heard charge a fair bit for excess. I called Qantas about Qantas Link flights and they can't carry windsurfing gear (smaller planes!), and I think the limit was also 2m. I ended up going back on VB, who were very nice and didn't charge me anything although they could have.

I have carried a 2.7m board on Qantas and VB with no problem.

I suspect Sean's stories would probably refer to international travel as I think there will be a lot more restrictions and problems with transfers between different carriers.

If you really want to make sure and have the time, call the baggage depart at your airport and see what they say.

It's funny how at check in, when you get someone that doesn't understand what a windsurf board is that you can easily describe it as a large surfboard and they seem to be happy with that answer.



Upthere
Upthere
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26 Oct 2008 10:38pm
Thanks for the advice Formula nova it has pointed me in the right direction.
cheers dude
vando
vando
QLD
3419 posts
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26 Oct 2008 11:12pm
Ive recently made the trip form Brizzy to Melbourne airport via Qantas and Virgin blue on the way back didnt get charged at all though I think Virgin was going to charge us but my mate said we didnt get charged on the way down he didnt say it was with Qantas though. That was with 1 Board, 2 sails, 2 booms, 2 mast and the other crap that goes with it. Oh yer get there a good 1 hr before i recon we cut it abit close

ta Vando
table top russ
table top russ
WA
26 posts
WA, 26 posts
27 Oct 2008 3:25pm
Hi Upthere,

Did the same as you last year. See below link from last year.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=33082&SearchTerms=excess,baggage

I had no dramas, 1 board bag and 1 quiver bag, both just under 20kg. Get there nice and early cause its a pain in the ass trying to manoeuvre the gear through the crowd.

So wish i was heading over this year too! Good luck mate!

cheers,
Russ
stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
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27 Oct 2008 4:52pm
table top russ said...

Hi Upthere,

Did the same as you last year. See below link from last year.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=33082&SearchTerms=excess,baggage

I had no dramas, 1 board bag and 1 quiver bag, both just under 20kg. Get there nice and early cause its a pain in the ass trying to manoeuvre the gear through the crowd.

So wish i was heading over this year too! Good luck mate!

cheers,
Russ


it's all pretty simply really:

Qantas:
Domestic Economy Ticket includes 1 free bag upto 32 kgs. each additional bag will be charged at $22. Qantas does not guarantee the bag will be on the same plane. If you have a Qantas Frequent Flyer account you can actually add one windsurf or surf board bag to your booking prior to departure.

Virgin:
Domestic Economy Ticket includes no luggage. You will need to buy a pre allowance for $8 at the time of booking. This will give you 23 kgs. (32 kgs if you are a Velocity Gold Member). For sports equipment they will give you an additional 5 kgs bringing your allowance to 28kgs (and 37 kgs respectively). Each kg over the 28 kgs will be charged at $8 per kg.

Those are the published excess baggage charges. You might be lucky and not get charged but at the end of the day this is what they can and most likely will charge most of the time.


CJW
CJW
NSW
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29 Oct 2008 11:58am
Virgin seem pretty picky with the baggage limits now. I'm in WA atm, flew over from Syd and it cost me $160 excess baggage. total weight was about 50kg, with an allowance of 28kg. All the other guys who flew over flew qantas didn't have a problem. So i'd say from now on it pays to fly qantas.

They used to be quite layed back, and to an extent i'm sure it still depends who you get. But now their policy is pretty black and white they are fairly quick to implement it.
WindWarrior
WindWarrior
NSW
1019 posts
NSW, 1019 posts
29 Oct 2008 2:13pm
Sadly there has been a MASSIVE changing of the guard in regards to excess baggage.
Virgin were once the king of the skies with no charge for sporting equipment.
Having regularly traveled interstate with heaps of sailing equipment and camera gear, Virgin were the best option... now it's qantas... but who knows for how long as I suspect once qantas work out Virgin have tightened the screws they will follow suit.

I flew back from Perth on Thursday on Qantas with:
1 x double board bag @ 30 kg
1 x all in one bag @ 30 kg
1 x bag @ 23kg

Normally on qantas this would be charged at $22 per extra piece of luggage.
Due to the ticket I had purchased and Frequent Flyer status I am allowed 2 pieces of luggage.
A big smile and happy demeanor helped with the check in... along with being 1 hour 30 minutes early resulted in all the gear going through with no charge.

The main thing to be aware of is NO airline will now take a bag over 32kg due to OH&S restrictions facing the bag snatches out the back.

Qantas flights are more expensive (in general) but with a flat $22 charge for extra piece/s of luggage it could work out cheaper than Virgin.
Sadly in my experience Virgin Baggage snatchers take better care of gear than Qantas... so if you are traveling with them, pack some epoxy ding repair so you can make a quick fix of your damaged board and get straight out onto the water.

Kev
stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
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29 Oct 2008 8:04pm
Kev,

I guess the fact that you are almost platinum status with Qantas because you are using them more like a bus service might have something to do with the additional "free" baggage allowance.

But you are right. It's only a matter of time before Qantas will tighten the screws as well...
CrPkxprt
CrPkxprt
VIC
5 posts
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29 Oct 2008 10:57pm
I flew back VB from Qld recently and got pinged for carrying a 9' Mal. But based on pre paying your $8 baggage charge it's pretty much the 23kg's plus the 5kg's of sporting kit. The only thing I'm not 100% on is if it's 5kg's in total for Sporting kit or 5kgs per bag of sporting kit.
In a couple of weeks we've got a crew of 8 heading from Melb to WA all on the same flight with 2 boards and Sail bag each ....... who do we need to smile nicley at again ??
Upthere
Upthere
QLD
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29 Oct 2008 10:05pm
Well looks like i'll be flying on new years day so i don't know how irritated they will be at check in at 6 30 in the morning. So if its up to attitude i'll be guarantied to pay excess.
stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
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30 Oct 2008 7:56am

In a couple of weeks we've got a crew of 8 heading from Melb to WA all on the same flight with 2 boards and Sail bag each ....... who do we need to smile nicley at again ??


all I can say is: "Get the check book ready"
aus301
aus301
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30 Oct 2008 9:20am
CrPkxprt said...


In a couple of weeks we've got a crew of 8 heading from Melb to WA all on the same flight with 2 boards and Sail bag each ....... who do we need to smile nicley at again ??


There is a very good chance you wont get all the gear on the same flight. Three of us went over together with gear a few years back and even then they were going to split the gear over different flights. So yeah, be ready to pay and be ready to wait in perth for the flights with your gear to turn up.

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