El nino~ predicted - effect on winds?

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dism
dism
NSW
660 posts
NSW, 660 posts
5 Jun 2009 9:18pm
Have heard talk of prediction of El Nino~ occuring soon

Anyone out there that can pass on the info about what this will do to our winds and waves?

Esp. wind (i'm hanging out for 20-30kn again aka Sept-Nov hopefully)

Even how Mid Nth Coast of NSW doesn't really experience the drought of the El Nino~ .. so this pattern may not hold too much change

Will dig around BOM to see if they are the source of the talk...
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
5 Jun 2009 11:53pm
The mid north coast of NSW is affected by droughts brought about by this weather patterns. The last big drought lead to a few cattle on my parents farm dying from lack of fodder leading to weakness and getting stuck in mud around dried up dams. We had to put them down. I think it was in the summer of 91.

In relation to winds, I think we get stronger seabreezes during El Nino years. The seawater is cooler and the land is warmer leading to stronger temperature differences between land and sea.

However during the El Nino cycle the East-West trade winds across the Pacific Ocean weaken so that would affect the strength of the wind.

So in the end it probably means no wind on the weekend.

Feel free to correct me as I'm not a meterologist.



dism
dism
NSW
660 posts
NSW, 660 posts
6 Jun 2009 12:22am
Cheers Moby

Hoping for the former scenario, the latter isn;t sounding great

By mid north coast, I was actually meaning Coffs (which pretty much is always well watered being the closest point of the Great Divide to the coast, leading to concentrated orographic effect (rain cooling when rising up mountains and forming rainfall))

Come on greater temp differential.

Where are all the meterologists?
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
6 Jun 2009 12:00am
If anyone wants to see this animated:



check this out:
worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/

P.S. It hasn't helped me understand what happens over here
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
6 Jun 2009 10:50am
Ive noticed that for the Newcastle area we get more & better Summer NE's. I used to think how the only good thing as everywhere was drought stricken & dried out , was that is was better for sailboarding..Just an observation.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
6 Jun 2009 8:31pm
agree that the eastern states seem to get better seabreezes during el nino.

also agree that la nina has good tradewinds. SE winds for us.

but from memory i think during la nina events through winter we experienced -ve values. especially in may.

last couple of years as we have headed into spring the values have gone positive again. what is being said is that they expect values will stay -ve in spring. time will tell i guess.

but i'm not a meteorologist.

www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/

www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/soihtm1.shtml

www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/soi2.shtml
choco
choco
SA
4181 posts
SA, 4181 posts
6 Jun 2009 8:27pm
Gestalt said...

agree that the eastern states seem to get better seabreezes during el nino.

also agree that la nina has good tradewinds. SE winds for us.

but from memory i think during la nina events through winter we experienced -ve values. especially in may.

last couple of years as we have headed into spring the values have gone positive again. what is being said is that they expect values will stay -ve in spring. time will tell i guess.

but i'm not a meteorologist.

www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/

www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/soihtm1.shtml

www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/soi2.shtml


Shouldn't a meteoroligist be studying meteors? no wonder they can't seem to get the weather forecast right we need a windioligist
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
6 Jun 2009 9:01pm
ok ok.....

i'm a weather girl! heels and all. [}:)]

for a windioligist it would need to be windy.
MagicMike
MagicMike
WA
210 posts
WA, 210 posts
24 Jun 2009 2:46pm
the last strong El nino we had was during the 06-07 season and i remember days and days of clear blue skies and 25kts of seabreeze in the afternoon, alot more afternoon storms as well i think. 07/08 was La nina and that was the worst summer i have ever experienced
i hope we do get a El nino this year but as said the effects on farms and agriculture can be very bad. anyway see what happens,
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
24 Jun 2009 5:36pm
Gestalt said...

ok ok.....

i'm a weather girl! heels and all. [}:)]


You're no weather girl Gesty,
so, it being bored o'clock, I emailed the chanel 7 weather girl with a request for predictions. Keep posted...


glideontime
glideontime
NSW
207 posts
NSW, 207 posts
24 Jun 2009 6:10pm
definitely better as a rule with el nino, and the only down side is that usually when its dry elnino maching noree, and i head out to go sailing from rural forest residence, the question: is their going to be a bushfire while out sailing.
we have been lucky so far with el nino but in 94 it was so dry and the wind so good, but the whole forest was brown and yellow and not green at all. bring it on i guess its better to be sailed out every day than to be hangin' out waiting for wind that never comes.[}:)]
ma
ma
NSW
375 posts
ma ma
NSW, 375 posts
24 Jun 2009 6:12pm
agreed , el nino 06/07 was the best season I have seen for Newcastle area.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
24 Jun 2009 6:35pm
definitely better as a rule with el nino, and the only down side is that usually when its dry elnino maching noree, and i head out to go sailing from rural forest residence, the question: is their going to be a bushfire while out sailing.
Yep same here...Sailboarding does take away the depression of looking out at acres of drought affected pasture though..
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