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Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
28 Mar 2026 10:53pm
Wtf.. their website is so bad I can't actually find somewhere that lists the boards and sails. All I get is a bunch of ridiculous marketing hyperboles and no detail about anything .. they spend more time trying to educate on the latest words they made up and convincing the punter they are getting something special when it's clear it's not. it's almost like trump is running duotone..

I miss fanatic
AUS4
AUS4
NSW
1296 posts
NSW, 1296 posts
29 Mar 2026 2:13am
Gestalt said..
Wtf.. their website is so bad I can't actually find somewhere that lists the boards and sails. All I get is a bunch of ridiculous marketing hyperboles and no detail about anything .. they spend more time trying to educate on the latest words they made up and convincing the punter they are getting something special when it's clear it's not. it's almost like trump is running duotone..

I miss fanatic





I think you must be drunk. www.duotonesports.com/en
AI.Dave
AI.Dave
TAS
159 posts
TAS, 159 posts
29 Mar 2026 8:06am
haha keep up Gestalt! its simples

They have the perfect Wave Surfboards for your Windsurfing

But first you must use the stylefinder. And measure how fast your waves are and if they are euro waves or international waves and whether your ground swell comes with a logo

clear as mud







Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
29 Mar 2026 7:07am
Nope. Not drunk. I don't drink ...

And not a fanboy either. .

Seriously I follow your link and it's the same **** website that doesn't list all the boards or sails in one place. Its like if the BOM designed a windsurfing website it would look like this ..

So I found it . Its not a link on the front page in one of the many banners, its up in the menu bar at the top left kinda hidden in plain sight. Clicking on the windsurfing icon doesn't get you there ..so the stuff I wanna see is less obvious that the stuff I don't want to see
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
29 Mar 2026 7:07am
AI.Dave said..
haha keep up Gestalt! its simples


Lol. That also crossed my mind ..
Matt UK
Matt UK
WA
294 posts
WA, 294 posts
29 Mar 2026 5:12am
By the look of it, its their new site so will probably take a few days to really have all products etc. At the moment I can't see masts or accessories.
AI.Dave
AI.Dave
TAS
159 posts
TAS, 159 posts
29 Mar 2026 8:15am
the grip vs ultra grip thing gets me too and then they throw in a wooden construction here and there

plus custom vs semi-custom.. its like pregnant vs semi pregnant

Anyways i have a grip 4 and very impressed, versatile fun board. definitely a fan
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
29 Mar 2026 7:20am
Yeah I really like their sups too.

But I cannot get my head around the construction thing .
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
29 Mar 2026 7:20am
Matt UK said..
By the look of it, its their new site so will probably take a few days to really have all products etc. At the moment I can't see masts or accessories.


Cound be too. Some of the links just disappeared.
AI.Dave
AI.Dave
TAS
159 posts
TAS, 159 posts
29 Mar 2026 8:25am
DLAB is carbon/innegra
SLS is carbon/s-glass
and i dont really know about the wooden construction

DLAB the best for durability and ding resistance

Does that help?
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
29 Mar 2026 7:30am
This is in their customised section ..

PROVEN & TESTED SHAPES
Proven and tested shapes from the brand with the longest experience in windsurf board design. Just one millimeter or a mismatched fin/mast-track position can turn a magic board into an under-performer. This way, you or a potential second-hand customer know exactly what you are getting.


Um.. doubt that very much.

Who are they talking about? They replaced the designer and told no one... Not even a press release .

Duotone even want you to think about who you are gonna sell too and what value there is. Good luck.. I come to second hand board purchases with scales.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
29 Mar 2026 7:37am
AI.Dave said..
DLAB is carbon/innegra
SLS is carbon/s-glass
and i dont really know about the wooden construction

DLAB the best for durability and ding resistance

Does that help?


The full custom wood looks new for people that prefer heavy boards that are cheaper...

What is full custom??? Can I send them a file lol ..
AUS4
AUS4
NSW
1296 posts
NSW, 1296 posts
29 Mar 2026 10:32am
Omg !!!! I can't believe how hard it is for you to click on a link that says " Windsurfing "
you can lead a horse to water ....
no wonder no one uses Seabreeze anymore.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
29 Mar 2026 10:08am
AUS4 said..
Omg !!!! I can't believe how hard it is for you to click on a link that says " Windsurfing "
you can lead a horse to water ....
no wonder no one uses Seabreeze anymore.




Because that link does not take you to the windsurfing board entire collection which was the point of the thread. It takes you to news articles about their wank.

Stop being disingenuous.
kato
kato
VIC
3527 posts
VIC, 3527 posts
29 Mar 2026 11:23am
AUS4 said..

Gestalt said..
Wtf.. their website is so bad I can't actually find somewhere that lists the boards and sails. All I get is a bunch of ridiculous marketing hyperboles and no detail about anything .. they spend more time trying to educate on the latest words they made up and convincing the punter they are getting something special when it's clear it's not. it's almost like trump is running duotone..

I miss fanatic






I think you must be drunk. www.duotonesports.com/en


No issue
jdfoils
jdfoils
450 posts
450 posts
29 Mar 2026 8:37am
Their website is every bit as good as their products...
mathew
mathew
QLD
2167 posts
QLD, 2167 posts
29 Mar 2026 10:45am
Looks like it was ChatGipitied:
- the underlying markup looks like it was created by a machine
- the styling is circa-2010, which is what the models want to produce.
- pretty obviously off-by-one styling bugs
- obvious human-understanding bugs
- most content past-the-fold
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
29 Mar 2026 10:51am
jdfoils said..
Their website is every bit as good as their products...



The diplomatic response.
ptsf1111
ptsf1111
WA
574 posts
WA, 574 posts
29 Mar 2026 8:55am
mathew said..
Looks like it was ChatGipitied:
- the underlying markup looks like it was created by a machine
- the styling is circa-2010, which is what the models want to produce.
- pretty obviously off-by-one styling bugs
- obvious human-understanding bugs
- most content past-the-fold




Exactly my thought when I read the above text in the screenshot. The em dash kinda gives it away, not many humans use that in writing. I wouldn't expect any company to not leverage genAI, but at least customise it.

Also:
"High-performance surfboards for windsurfing" What a weird choice of words.
Widget
Widget
NSW
13 posts
NSW, 13 posts
29 Mar 2026 3:51pm
Their website does not inspire confidence. This is the product manager Daniel Aeberli's comments about the Blast. And following that, his comments about the Blitz. Spot the one word change.

?THE BLAST SURPRISES ME EACH AND EVERY TIME: WHEN YOU ARE CAPABLE OF SAILING IN THE STRAPS AND BEING FAST IS YOUR TOP PRIORITY THE BLAST MIGHT BE THE LAST BOARD YOU'LL NEED. BECAUSE THE RANGE OF USE IS JUST INSANE: THE BLAST IS EXTREMELY CONTROLLABLE WHICH IMMEDIATELY MAKES YOU A FASTER SAILOR. ALSO, JIBING IS SUPER EFFORTLESS, WHICH HELPS BOTH JIBE BEGINNERS AND ADVANCED RACE JIBERS TO INCREASE THEIR SUCCESS RATE. AND FINALLY PARTNERED WITH A HIGH PERFORMANCE FIN THERE IS NEARLY NO LIMIT TO THE SPEED POTENTIAL OF THE BLAST.? - Daniel Aeberli - Product Manager Boards

And here's his comment about the Blitz.

?THE BLITZ SURPRISES ME EACH AND EVERY TIME: WHEN YOU ARE CAPABLE OF SAILING IN THE STRAPS AND BEING FAST IS YOUR TOP PRIORITY THE BLITZ MIGHT BE THE LAST BOARD YOU'LL NEED. BECAUSE THE RANGE OF USE IS JUST INSANE: THE BLITZ IS EXTREMELY CONTROLLABLE WHICH IMMEDIATELY MAKES YOU A FASTER SAILOR. ALSO, JIBING IS SUPER EFFORTLESS, WHICH HELPS BOTH JIBE BEGINNERS AND ADVANCED RACE JIBERS TO INCREASE THEIR SUCCESS RATE. AND FINALLY PARTNERED WITH A HIGH PERFORMANCE FIN THERE IS NEARLY NO LIMIT TO THE SPEED POTENTIAL OF THE BLITZ.? - Daniel Aeberli - Product Manager Boards
AI.Dave
AI.Dave
TAS
159 posts
TAS, 159 posts
29 Mar 2026 5:43pm
Lol.. the "last board you'll need". Guess its a dud then and you're better off using anything else
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
29 Mar 2026 5:17pm
I'm with Gestalt. I tried to find what is SLS and what is D/LAB.
There is nothing I cna see.

Lots of FAQ about what is a windsurfing raceboard. Who uses a windsurfing raceboard blah blah.

They show you (if you tick enough boxes) what they think you might use, but nothign on that site tells me what is SLS and what is D/LAB




AI.Dave
AI.Dave
TAS
159 posts
TAS, 159 posts
29 Mar 2026 8:31pm
FULL CUSTOM SLS TECHNOLOGY
The FULL CUSTOM SLS TECHNOLOGY is a full custom technology which is one hundred percent identical to high-end custom made boards.Instead of using a mould to bring the EPS foam core into its final shape each EPS block gets CNC milled. This ensures maximum precision and saves weight. Same as with high-end custom board makers the major advantage lays in the processing. We call this SINGLE PROCESS TECHNOLOGY and it is the key to our industry-leading weight-strength ratio. Instead of combining working steps to save time and money every single step follows its individual process. So for example instead of joining the PVC sandwich with the EPS core in a single shot we vacuum-bag the top and bottom PVC shields with the EPS core separately. For all SLS boards we use our most sophisticated layup which consists of more than 50 individual parts and components.The major difference compared to the FULL CUSTOM D/LAB TECHNOLOGY is the S-glass on the PVC sandwich for the SLS boards (like most wave boards on the market), while the D/LAB boards are equipped with a carbon-Innegra layer on the outside. Innegra is the best composite fibre to prevent dents. Dents caused by the mast touching the board (during catapults or when getting washed) are mainly an aesthetic issue. But if you want a board that stays dent-free, you should opt for the D/LAB version.Last but not least even every single board size has an individual layup. That's the final stage of individualization in construction.Yet all of this is achieved without any sacrifice in durability since we always follow our core motto LIGHT DONE RIGHT.
AI.Dave
AI.Dave
TAS
159 posts
TAS, 159 posts
29 Mar 2026 8:34pm
Don't ask me to find it again

To summarise I think they mean you can have any 2 of light, durable or cheap

Plus it's not custom. Custom to me means you talk to the guy who makes the board and they create a board for your needs. Not mass production
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
29 Mar 2026 8:07pm
Turns out their d/lab and sls sails weigh the same..

LIGHT DONE RIGHT CONSTRUCTION
Radical weight reduction of 450 g, bringing it to the same level as the SUPER_HERO D/LAB. However, WITHOUT using super thin film on the main panel which is the secret of our unrivaled wind range and longterm durability!

as an aside, it's like trump wrote their website,, everything is better, unrivalled, we're the best, more experienced, done it longer etc.

so the penny has possibly dropped for me regards the custom thing... they are scared of the competition. ie. flikka who are cheaper. Flikka have their dream board configurator. Duotone their style finder..
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