Does anyone wash their gear?

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T 11
T 11
TAS
811 posts
TAS, 811 posts
31 May 2009 9:59pm
I used to always wash the formula gear at the yacht club but never bother to wash the slalom stuff and it appears to last just as long. Is salt a preservative?
WindmanV
WindmanV
VIC
819 posts
VIC, 819 posts
1 Jun 2009 8:57am
Hi, T11,

Allegedly, as the salt water evaporates, the left-behind salt crystals can abrade the batten stitching, leading to failure of the batten seams. I always fresh-water wash and dry my sails after use, but very few others that I sail with take this trouble to look after their gear.

There's plenty of opinions on the rec.windsurfing and Boards (UK) forums, for and against washing.

Regards,

WindmanV
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
1 Jun 2009 9:03am
I wash mine because it has to go inside my car ( & I don't want it to turn into a rustbucket like my 1st van did).
Reading the manufacturers recommendations they say to wash the salt off occasionally.I find that because I wash mine everytime & then have to hang it to dry that I get more damage to the clear "window' from creases hanging it up.I'd prefer not to hang it but the car would cost more to replace than a sail!
P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
1 Jun 2009 1:07pm
i wash in it in the ocean when i go sailing. shouldn't wash gear every time you go sailing, the chemicals in fresh water kills stiching and material faster then anything..

I used to work for a company that made lycra rash shirts and stuff, the expected life span of any product being used in a fresh water pool was 3 months.

The levels of chemicals in tape water are obviously alot lower but none the less are still present.. plus they throw in a few more..

Maybe you could wash them in natural spring water..
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15100 posts
WA, 15100 posts
1 Jun 2009 2:10pm
Yes, salt is a preservative. Didn't they have salted beef in days gone by to preserve it? I think it preserves things by making it a difficult environment for other things to grow in.

As for sails, the salt prevents the sails getting mildew. The way to prevent salt crystals forming is to sail regularly!

I don't ever wash my sails unless they are covered in sand, and I haven't noticed any clouding or wear caused by this. Even when they are covered in sand I prefer to rinse them in the ocean just because I am too lazy to do it when I get home.

I have compared my sail abuse to others that do rinse theirs and I can't say I have noticed any differences.
swoosh
swoosh
QLD
1929 posts
QLD, 1929 posts
1 Jun 2009 5:15pm
I wash my sails with bottled water after ever sail. Get the mt. franklin at the supermarket on special.

srsly.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
1 Jun 2009 5:55pm
swoosh said...

I wash my sails with bottled water after ever sail. Get the mt. franklin at the supermarket on special.

srsly.


Sometimes I take a bottle to rinse off extenders and the like. A passer by asked me once if it was tap water or not. I looked at her, puzzled, a bit shocked actually. "Of course it is, do you know how much this gear costs?".

I don't rinse, but I do dry when I can.

Leman
Leman
VIC
672 posts
VIC, 672 posts
1 Jun 2009 6:09pm
swoosh said...

I wash my sails with bottled water after ever sail. Get the mt. franklin at the supermarket on special.

srsly.


Damn Swoosh, that's love! I used to hose my gear down and dry but info seems to suggest it is unneccessary. I now just ensure it is sand free. Hate the sound of sand scratching inside the material.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
1 Jun 2009 6:16pm
when sailing on the sunshine coast i always make sure i wash my gear. they have taps and plenty of water which they won't share, so i take advantage of it. [}:)] it's their environment and not mine.

when sailing everywhere else in SEQ i don't wash my gear cause we have no water and the council took away all of the taps.
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
WA, 7733 posts
1 Jun 2009 4:20pm
No. Unless, gear is covered in sand or leaves or other crap - IF I can't brush this off by hand

At one spot I sail, the amount of water that is used washing clean gear is mind boggling... I can wait several mintues simply to get a drink from the tap! So much water goes on the ground here that there is a constant puddle and the grass doesn't grow!
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
4019 posts
WA, 4019 posts
1 Jun 2009 8:42pm
I look after things.
I hose my gear at the beach, then I hang it out to dry when I get home.
Everything gets washed and dried after every sail.
Most of my gear is 15 years old but still looks like new.
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
4019 posts
WA, 4019 posts
1 Jun 2009 8:43pm
Pugwash said...

No. Unless, gear is covered in sand or leaves or other crap - IF I can't brush this off by hand

At one spot I sail, the amount of water that is used washing clean gear is mind boggling... I can wait several mintues simply to get a drink from the tap! So much water goes on the ground here that there is a constant puddle and the grass doesn't grow!


That's probably from me washing all my gear!
hardie
hardie
WA
4133 posts
WA, 4133 posts
1 Jun 2009 8:51pm
The 2 most damaging things to sails are UV light, and the sail film being creased/crushed. The more you roll sails up and unroll them the more you expose them to the 2 most damaging things. Ideally if there is a hose at the de-rigging area, you would hose your sails down before you derig them? Have never washed my sails, and they last as long or longer than anyone elses.
spot1
spot1
WA
1588 posts
WA, 1588 posts
1 Jun 2009 9:07pm
what a waste of time
just roll them up and drop in the a bag
nature will do the rest
jp747
jp747
1553 posts
1553 posts
1 Jun 2009 9:22pm
spot1 said...

what a waste of time
just roll them up and drop in the a bag
nature will do the rest


procastinating myself here should have done it weeks ago..hope nature stops what's it doing[}:)]
pweedas
pweedas
WA
4642 posts
WA, 4642 posts
2 Jun 2009 5:16pm
I've never washed a sail in my life and they last just fine.
I think this sail washing thing is a leftover from the old canvas sails of a million years ago. If you didn't wash and dry them then the next season they would be a nice shade of black from all the mildew on them and be half rotten.
That doesn't happen with the new materials so instead of wasting time with the washing, stay out another 15 minutes, and when you come in, roll them up still dripping wet and chuck them in the back on an old towel or two maybe to catch the drips. This will make you feel much happier unless you have a washing O.C.D.

{edit} I should have added however, this does not apply to kites and ALL kites need at least a 1 hour wash and gentle rub down afterwards to maintain them in a flyable condition. Make sure that this routine is rigorously maintained. Also a 90 minute rubdown and line inspection prior to each use is also recommended. {/edit}
WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
3183 posts
WA, 3183 posts
2 Jun 2009 7:05pm
"Does anyone wash their gear?"


yep, try to 2-3 times a week, otherwise it gets a bit cheezy
md74
md74
QLD
1064 posts
QLD, 1064 posts
2 Jun 2009 9:52pm
cleaning? does dropping a sail into its bag classify as cleaning? if yes, then yes I do clean by gear.


the funniest thing is watching guys with watering cans cleaning their sails, whilst they are cleaning, im half way home heading for a fresh cup of Dilmah.
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
2 Jun 2009 7:56pm
md74 said...

cleaning? does dropping a sail into its bag classify as cleaning? if yes, then yes I do clean by gear.


the funniest thing is watching guys with watering cans cleaning their sails, whilst they are cleaning, im half way home heading for a fresh cup of Dilmah.



Now come on MD74, I distinctly remember a fusion of a watering can and a soft drink bottle, being used at the train...

OK I was impressed by it
stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
3571 posts
WA, 3571 posts
2 Jun 2009 8:11pm
best recipe for long lasting sails is never take them out of the bag to begin with.
md74
md74
QLD
1064 posts
QLD, 1064 posts
2 Jun 2009 10:38pm
actually nebs that was my portable shower! 1.5 litres was enough for a shower with my hybrid water bottle/shower!
Goo Screw
Goo Screw
VIC
269 posts
VIC, 269 posts
3 Jun 2009 8:11pm
I wash my race sails because I figure they will go faster with out a layer of salt crust and sea weed on them.
I like to wash my masts so they don't get jammed together and I wash my wetties so they don't smell like piss.
McMahon
McMahon
VIC
129 posts
VIC, 129 posts
3 Jun 2009 9:40pm
If you keep sails in a vehicle where they move about, I would wash them. I didn't bother washing sails for a while and the film became scratched up pretty quick compared to washed sails due to the dried salt and a bit of sand.
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