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MintoxGT
MintoxGT
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5 Sep 2007 11:42am
I was browsing at work and stumbled across this, I admit that every time I would hear someone say "Squashed air" I had no idea what they meant, now I do.

Hope it helps someone.



Cheers GT
mineral1
mineral1
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5 Sep 2007 12:21pm
quote:
Originally posted by MintoxGT

I was browsing at work and stumbled across this, I admit that every time I would hear someone say "Squashed air" I had no idea what they meant, now I do.

Hope it helps someone.



Cheers GT


"Squashed air"
Twas me sorry, bit left over from heavy industry and compressed air like 'open the valve" lots of squashed air escaping, just like a seabreeze or if its from the East its a treebreeze
MintoxGT
MintoxGT
WA
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5 Sep 2007 12:58pm
I have no idea, the seabreeze we get here in Perth is a local phenomina I am told by the experienced guys, so I guessed it was a similar cross section.

Cheers GT
decrepit
decrepit
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5 Sep 2007 3:23pm
I think the seabreeze is a bit different to both of those. As you say it's a local phenomenon caused by the land getting hotter than the adjacent ocean. Air over the land heats and rises, colder air over ocean rushes in to take it's place.
Think both the frontal systems are caused by bigger more general weather patterns. But if they occur, can add or subtract to the seabreeze effect.
DavMen
DavMen
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5 Sep 2007 5:44pm
quote:
Originally posted by decrepit

I think the seabreeze is a bit different to both of those. As you say it's a local phenomenon caused by the land getting hotter than the adjacent ocean. Air over the land heats and rises, colder air over ocean rushes in to take it's place.
Think both the frontal systems are caused by bigger more general weather patterns. But if they occur, can add or subtract to the seabreeze effect.



Simply (very)
A sea breeze is the'sucking' effect of cold air in from the cooler air thats over the oceans by the void left buy the rising hot air over land masses.

Cold sea temps + Hot land mass = strong Seabreeze (without considering pressure systems that can boost or negate a seabreeze).

Fronts just push.

Now shoot me down in flames!!![}:)]
decrepit
decrepit
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5 Sep 2007 4:17pm
I'm sure millennia ago my science teacher said that technically there's no such thing as "suck", or was that no such thing as cold???
May be both, caus they're both the absence of something. You can have "0" temperature and pressure, but no lower, above that it's always positive pressure and temperature. So it's always blow that does the work not suck.
hardie
hardie
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5 Sep 2007 4:43pm
quote:
Originally posted by decrepit

. So it's always blow that does the work not suck.



If I was immature........
DavMen
DavMen
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5 Sep 2007 8:29pm
quote:
Originally posted by decrepit

I'm sure millennia ago my science teacher said that technically there's no such thing as "suck", or was that no such thing as cold???




Was the summer of '64



does suck imply less than zero pressure

It mearly means the air is drawn in rather than pushed.
Let me think

Carburetor - Vacum cleaner - oh yes - sea breeze

Yeah OK technically its a thermal flow

I did encourage you to shot me down in flames i suppose

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decrepit
decrepit
WA
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5 Sep 2007 7:10pm
quote:
Originally posted by DavMen



I did encourage you to shot me down in flames i suppose





Always try to please!
decrepit
decrepit
WA
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5 Sep 2007 7:12pm
quote:
Originally posted by hardie



If I was immature........



Drats, I was convinced you'd find that irresistible, and be sucked in, ---- almost, -----soooooo close.
laurie
laurie
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6 Sep 2007 11:22am
I think what you're looking for, rather than blow/suck, air is simply moving from one location to another in an attempt to stabilise air pressure.

Areas of high pressure will move into areas of low pressure in an attempt to create a constant air pressure.

It's all relative. If you're standing on the ground, you feel the effect of the air move past you. Imagine you were in a hot air balloon in a blizzard, as Richard Branson was. Because you're moving with the air (at over 200km/h) the snowflakes gently float around you like a still day.

Try these two articles:

Seabreeze effect & cold fronts here.
www.seabreeze.com.au/info/wind.asp

History of weather discovery here.
www.seabreeze.com.au/Members/Content/Articles/Miscellaneous/A-history-of-weather-discovery_1216853.aspx
sick_em_rex
sick_em_rex
NSW
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6 Sep 2007 12:10pm
In the 25 odd years I've been watching weather maps on the news etc since I started windsurfing I have only ever ONCE seen a warm front over the eastern side of Australia. Like Davmen says, we only ever get cold fronts.
Leech
Leech
WA
1933 posts
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6 Sep 2007 10:35am
The history of weather's an enjoyable read, Laurie.

cheers.

I never really considered the important link between weather forecasting and communication technology.
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