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b14
b14
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b14 b14
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12 Feb 2009 8:29pm
Hi
I have a question to AU ,NZ or world wide.
In AU or NZ have certification of windsurfing skill/technology ?
If so who take care of such certification.org?

( If I need certification , Receive skill test and Pay (J2000 but depend on skill Level)
Pls see following site.
It is Google translation. Sorry , translation not so good and My English too.
ULR is so long(include Google translation) ,pls cut and copy !!

translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=ja&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpwa.info%2Ftest%2Findex.html&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0=

or (Japanese)
www.jpwa.info
And more

translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=ja&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpwa.info%2Fsponsor%2Fmanufacturer.html&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0=

or (Japanese)
http://www.jpwa.info/sponsor/manufacturer.html

"The brand which it is not registered all JPWA amateur class and others meetings of 2012 seasons with in sponsorship of JPWA, an authorized event again prohibits the brand name exposure."


I have the license of the motor boat( It is from The government, NO QUESTION). and I sailed dinghy for 20 years in Japan and No Certification.. have not heard such story.
We ( Japanese, Include me) are so funny ..

b14

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decrepit
decrepit
WA
12872 posts
WA, 12872 posts
12 Feb 2009 8:40pm
In Australia, ordinary windsurfers don't have any certification, not sure about paid instructors though, think they may need something.
Certainly that's true in Europe. Not sure about ordinary windsurfers there, think they can get a certificate of skill level, but not sure if it's legally required.
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
13 Feb 2009 12:02am
The idea floated in the mid-80s, esp. in the Sydney area. At the time, they were talking about the number of sailors in the harbour, near-misses with ferries, etc.

The idea died, probably related to dwindling number of sailors.
b14
b14
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b14 b14
60 posts
12 Feb 2009 10:06pm
Hi Decrepit
Thanks for your info. " Australia has not such system."
Yes I agree ,They need something .
Of course legal it is not necessary in Japan. However, why does JPWA introduce the system?. This certificate will become necessary for an amateur competition to hold of JPWA.
Something is strange for me

As for the windsurfer, each person understands one's level enough.

PS
This is the same as NTT 15 years ago.
NTT made advices by oneself, and it was off a world standard.
And They spent too much money for ..
* NTT is Japan Telegraph And Telephone.
b14
b14
b14
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b14 b14
60 posts
12 Feb 2009 11:36pm
Pierrec45
Oh I think that it do not die our side. Thanks for info.

Then I red more..
Find the another matter : following.$B!!(B(Translation may be strange. But will understand it.)
"prohibit the logo exposure of the tool except the registration brand in all meeting places of the JPWA sponsorship authorized meet that the amateur class included from a season in 2012. I try for the spread of formal articles step by step in this way and finally do the participation of the formula meeting that I use it anything other than a formula article like a ski, snowboarding, the surfing industry with impossibility and aim at the committee expecting the development of the cooperation company."

So If I get certification then not the registration brand ( CarbonArt, Kasail, C3, OES.. Gun sail.Bic...) I can not .. I have to buy NP,SB,F2,Fantic,Severn,North,Maui,goya, simmer,ezzy,naish, gaastra,exocet,bill foote,SOS,tabou,rrd.jp or angulo.
The registration brand : www.jpwa.info

Oh but Pay (J50,000 /Year for registration.
or Hide/Mask a logo with tape.$B!!(B. The fin is underwater so no pay?
Anyway It is inside of Japan ,,Sorry about this talk..

b14

greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
13 Feb 2009 12:41am
far canal!
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
13 Feb 2009 12:50am
i agree b4.

mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
13 Feb 2009 9:14am
You pay 20,000 to get certified. Who pays the 50,000 for the registration- the sailor or the brand?

And you agree with this j?

So potential money earner for JPWA/?WA goes like this:
- Involve government,all windsurfers have to be certified on basis of safety.
- Any brands wishing to be sold in country have to pay a "development" fee or all marking must be removed from their product
- or as the JPWA propose gear that is not on the sponsor list is banned from events.

So 1st point may be acceptable, however im sure jetski sales saw a drop once licensing became mandatory.

2nd point, brands pay or boycott ?WA considering the small market size of somewhere like here. This essentially leaves events as one (limited) design, further limiting any ?WA involvement with any PWA/formula events as they do not subscribe to their rules.

3rd point people dont race, again JPWA limit their involvement with international competition.

Great way to kill a sport.

Yes instructors should have some sort of accreditation.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
13 Feb 2009 9:33am
hi mk,

i was agreeing with b14 that the system is stupid.
SurfConnect
SurfConnect
QLD
1674 posts
QLD, 1674 posts
13 Feb 2009 10:21am
Similar to RYA, Australia does have a certification system in place, and has been so for many years. We run certification courses 7 days a week, for individuals, corporates, schools as well as the cadets.

They are in 5 levels of certification -

Level 1 Certificate - Basic Skills
Level 2 Certificate - Improving Techniques
Level 3 Certificate - Stronger Winds
Level 4 Certificate - Advanced Longboard Techniques
Level 5 Certificate - Advanced Shortboard Techniques

Level 1 syllabus looks like this:

Level 1 - Basic Skills

Overview
This course is designed to provide a safe and enjoyable introduction to small boat sailing for novices. At this level, successful participant should have a thorough understanding of the safety requirements for continuing the sport away from a YATC. They should be capable of launching in light winds and sailing around a small triangular course by tacking and gybing and sailing on all points of sail.

A 4-5 hour introductory course will cover all the necessary theory and safety techniques as well as giving the participants the basic skills required to sail on both tacks and turn around. An additional 3-4 hour course will usually be required to enable students to sail the triangular course with ease.

Outcomes
You will be capable of windsurfing in light winds and will receive a Basic Skills

Certificate
Pre-requisites
This is an introductory course, so there are no pre-requisites
Where can I take the course? Please contact a Yachting Australia Training Centre or your nearest Sailing Club. Please ask them about our Yachting Australia Logbooks so that you can monitor your progress.
What to do afterwards? Continue trainng in windsurfing to achieve the Improving Techniques Certificate


SYLLABUS:
1. Launching Starting and Landing
Carrying the rig and board seoarately - attaching the rig
Determining the wind direction to enable easy launching
Understanding the terms upwind, downwind and crosswind
Launching and landing the sailboard
Climbing on, uphauling and maintaining the neutral position

2. Sailing techniques and stance
Moving off and sailing across the wind on both tacks
Stance, controlling power, stopping
Steering the Sailboard by leaning the rig fore and aft

3. Manoeuvres
Turning the board through 180 degrees using the rig
Tacking by turning the bow through the eye of the wind

4. Rigging
The names and uses of the main parts of the board and rig
Rigging from the componenet parts
Correct tensions, boom height and adjustments

5. Rescue Techniques and Safety
Safety for Windsurfing and rules of the road
Local regulations applicable to Windsurfingt
Completing a full self rescue
Understanding other options if self rescue fails

6. Sailing Theory
The main points of sailing and sail positions
The "No Go Zone" and how to get upwind
Steering, luffing up and brearing away - centre of effort and lateral resistance
Tacking upwind and gybing downwind
Thr triangular course
Sailing terms - port/starboard, windward leeward

7. Sailing Conditions
The effects of on/cross/off-shore winds on a sailing area
Moving water - tides, currents, rips and rivers
Personal limitations and the wind scale
Information resources - tides and winds
Choosing an ideal spot to suit your experience

8. Equipment
Wetsuits - types, uses and capabilities, the drysuit
Boots, gloves, hats and types of PFD's (1, 2 and 3)
All-rounder boards and rigs - sizes and suitability
Care of your equipment - transporting, maintaining and insuring

9. Other Aspects and Options
Basic freestyle for improving skills - sail spins , pirouettes
Local clubs and associations
Choosing an event - where to start

10. Sailing the Triangle
Improved tacking with crossover technique
Tacking and close hauled to achieve an upwin goal
Gybing and broad reaches to return downwind
The square run
Getting around a triangle course.


Full details can be viewed at:

http://www.yachting.org.au/?MenuID=Training%2F4%2F8337%2F23998%2CNational%5FTraining%5FSchemes%2F34%2F22428%2F%2CNational%5FWindsurfing%5FScheme%2F1264%2F749%2F0

Click on the training calendar at YA's site to see where the next course in your area is run, or here for Queensland courses: www.qld.yachting.org.au/calendar/

evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
13 Feb 2009 2:28pm
All your base are belong to us?

Does anybody else find the whole organisational aspect kind of detracts from the freedom of the sport?
b14
b14
60 posts
b14 b14
60 posts
13 Feb 2009 1:40pm
Certificate after the training agrees.
But our side Certificate mean is Testing( 1 level to 5).Pass a test then get Certification doc. so this is nothing for me.
Well I `d better to spend Money to A windsurfing school or Go to AU school.

Who Pay(registration) : An importer or Japan office.
Anyway both web site (JPWA and WFJ) nothing talk about
1) How to sail
2) Safety on the sea
3) A seagoing rule (Collision avoidance)
4)Fun of the windsurfing
...etc
About WFJ :
wf-j.org/ is Windsufing Federation Japan. This one is under the JSAF ISAF.
Handing RS:X T293 Imco, F , But No event T293

Joke for you !!! But it is true.
*The publication of the sail number is here(.wf-j.org)
and JPWA generates a sail number, too.(Japan Professional Windsurfers Association)
Oh which one is International ? Of course it is WFJ side.
Some pro get 2 sail number , get from WFJ and JPWA, some one only WFJ.
if I get sail number from both side( have to pay both side ? )

NWA(J(Nippon Windsurfing Association)+JPW(Japan Professional Windsurfers)+A.B.I.T.Association of windsurfing technology=JPWA
I am a Japanese; but do not understand it well.
Thanks for your comment.

Yes Kill windsufing , (B
JEZ
JEZ
WA
395 posts
JEZ JEZ
WA, 395 posts
14 Feb 2009 11:02pm
WTF??
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12872 posts
WA, 12872 posts
15 Feb 2009 10:26pm
Hey b14,
If you want to compete without all those regulations and restrictions, why not form a team (or 2) and join the GPS Team Challenge.
www.gpsteamchallenge.com.au/index.php?country=0

It's now International, the New Zealanders joined us last year, and a Croatian team has just joined.
You could make Japan the 3rd, just hit the contact button and write to Ben.
You only need 2 people to form a team, and a GPS unit (preferably a locosystems GT11 or GT31)
Please Register, or first...
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