Boat Builder looking for windsurfer mast supplier

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Den1968
Den1968
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15 Nov 2009 7:08am
Hi all,

I need to source some carbon masts for some boats we are building to a UK design.

The UK designer specifies the following from a UK company ( the natural 400 and 430) and I am trying to find similar products in OZ

http://www.zerogravitydistribution.co.uk/amex/mast_natural40.html

I would appreciate any info on local suppliers in Australia

TIA

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mr love
mr love
VIC
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VIC, 2421 posts
15 Nov 2009 1:39pm
www.cstcomposites.com/

Try these guy's
sailpilot
sailpilot
QLD
787 posts
QLD, 787 posts
15 Nov 2009 1:32pm
Looks like a pretty standard freeride mast you should be able to pick up at any sailboard store in aus, I doubt brand is of much relevance. At 40% carbon should be about $300. What partof the boat is it for Den.
Den1968
Den1968
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5 posts
15 Nov 2009 11:46am
Thanks
Den1968
Den1968
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5 posts
15 Nov 2009 11:49am
sailpilot said...

Looks like a pretty standard freeride mast you should be able to pick up at any sailboard store in aus, I doubt brand is of much relevance. At 40% carbon should be about $300. What partof the boat is it for Den.


one is for a small mizzen (free standing) and the other is partly for a gunter yard and partly for an assymetric bowsprit. Here's the boat here to give you an idea

http://www.swallowboats.co.uk/content/view/115/110/

BTW is "freeride" a brand?

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sailpilot
sailpilot
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15 Nov 2009 2:40pm
Nice little boats mate.
'freeride' just means it'll be a lower carbon content (cheaper), race masts have up to 100% carbon but 3x the price.
There's plenty of brands out there. You could even look at the seebreeze buy and sell area under windsurfing equipment.
Den1968
Den1968
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5 posts
15 Nov 2009 2:42pm
thanks for that

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Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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WA, 23647 posts
15 Nov 2009 7:09pm
Broken masts grow on trees, do you need a whole one or is just a top or bototm half fine?
landyacht
landyacht
WA
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WA, 5921 posts
15 Nov 2009 8:58pm
having built and sailed a couple of wooden boats I would feel like I had let the boat down by having a carbon mast. that kind of materials for that little itty bitty mizzen is complete overkill, same for that little spinnaker. for sails that size i dont even bother laminating the spar. save your money on the carbon and spend it on nice sheet ropes and better pulleys and fittings
Gidget
Gidget
NSW
104 posts
NSW, 104 posts
16 Nov 2009 11:31am
landyacht said...

having built and sailed a couple of wooden boats I would feel like I had let the boat down by having a carbon mast. that kind of materials for that little itty bitty mizzen is complete overkill, same for that little spinnaker. for sails that size i dont even bother laminating the spar. save your money on the carbon and spend it on nice sheet ropes and better pulleys and fittings


I agree....elegance and aesthetics.....
ikw777
ikw777
QLD
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QLD, 2995 posts
16 Nov 2009 11:26am
As soon as I started reading this thread I wondered to myself if this was for the Bayraiders. Really interested to see these being produced in Aust.

Has there been any progress on the bayraider 17?
Den1968
Den1968
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5 posts
16 Nov 2009 4:29pm
ikw777,

Latest on the BR17 is around March/April 2010. I have some preliminary info if you are interested send me a pm.

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Tipsy
Tipsy
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1 posts
3 Jan 2010 11:38am
Den1968 said...

Hi all,

I need to source some carbon masts for some boats we are building to a UK design.

The UK designer specifies the following from a UK company ( the natural 400 and 430) and I am trying to find similar products in OZ

http://www.zerogravitydistribution.co.uk/amex/mast_natural40.html

I would appreciate any info on local suppliers in Australia

TIA

AD


Hi Den,
just found this thread. Good luck with the BayRaiders downunder.

I sail & race a BayRaider. Great boat.

However, for racing I have modified my own boat with stiffer carbon spars than standard because the original spars have a lot of flex if you sail the boat hard. It is not so much the carbon content that matters but the 'IMCS' which indicates the stiffness of the spar. The higher the IMCS the more rigid. I am typically using 70% carbon with above 30 IMCS. I buy them as long as possible and then shorten them to get optimum rigidity.

That above link to CST may be very valuable for you, because they also do bigger diameter carbon tubes suitable for main masts. Maybe you will have customers interested in beefing up their boats a bit. Then a carbon mainmast is your choice, even more so in connection with Dyneema shrouds.
I myself have a carbon mainmast of 80mm OD x 3mm wall thickness, rigid like a tree but childs play to step and unstep.

What I can also recommend is to use carbon windsurfer masts also for the jib clubboom and for the mainsail spritboom, lowest possible weight and extremely durable.
However, if you use carbon tubes, you should always paint them a light colour. If you leave them black they heat up too much.

Hope this helps.

T.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
3 Jan 2010 3:31pm
Den1968 said...

sailpilot said...

Looks like a pretty standard freeride mast you should be able to pick up at any sailboard store in aus, I doubt brand is of much relevance. At 40% carbon should be about $300. What partof the boat is it for Den.


one is for a small mizzen (free standing) and the other is partly for a gunter yard and partly for an assymetric bowsprit. Here's the boat here to give you an idea

http://www.swallowboats.co.uk/content/view/115/110/

BTW is "freeride" a brand?

AD


Lovely boat.
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