Asymetric Sailing

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Macroscien
Macroscien
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24 Oct 2013 10:07pm
Is it only me or others had similar problem ?

Going up wind one direction is much easier and faster that another one.

Usually my favorite is right foot at back strap. Change direction everything is going much slower.

If there is something I can do to overcome this asymmetry in sailing ?
barn
barn
WA
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24 Oct 2013 8:12pm
Easiest way to get your symmetry back would be to sail slower on your fast tack..
decrepit
decrepit
WA
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24 Oct 2013 8:33pm
I don't notice a lot of difference in speed, but I'm definitely more comfortable on port tack, and after I've adjusted my harness lines to feel neutral on each tack, there's about 50-70mm difference in their position.
I think it's a left/right hand thing, I tend to put more pressure on my right hand whether it's front or back hand.
So on Port tack I'm controlling sail power with my stronger right arm, and harness lines are end up tad forward.
On starboard tack my stronger right arm tends to sheet out, so harness lines end up a tad back, and sail power is controlled by my weaker left arm.
This may be similar to your problem, or you may not be running quite square to the wind, try running more downwind on your slow side, and more upwind on your fast side.
KEVKEV
KEVKEV
74 posts
74 posts
25 Oct 2013 4:37am
Dont overlook your fin...I bought a brand new board a while ago and had the same issues..all my other boards felt fine...End up being a poorly made fin..even by eye i was easy to see it wasnt even on both sides....went really good one way but slow the other...
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
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25 Oct 2013 5:30am
barn said..

Easiest way to get your symmetry back would be to sail slower on your fast tack..



When I was learning I had this problem, but not for ages.

Sometimes I found its a problem where the wind direction is not right for the direction you want to go, so one way is easy and the other requires a lot more effort. Are you sure this is not the problem?

jusavina
jusavina
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25 Oct 2013 7:40am
barn said..

Easiest way to get your symmetry back would be to sail slower on your fast tack..


I've never thought about that
Shark Slayer
Shark Slayer
VIC
56 posts
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25 Oct 2013 8:45am
Does anyone remember those asymetric boards ? The ones with one side cut out , you had to buy 2 - they were wrong !
Roar
Roar
NSW
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25 Oct 2013 9:11am
also need to take into account tides or currents in the water - this will also affect the laminer flow accross the fin.
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
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25 Oct 2013 9:24am
I mainly sail in a bay, so heading out (cross to cross-on wind mainly), it's slower due to the chop/waves, but coming back in with the movement of the water is much faster. Out is for jumps & chop-hops...In is for blasting & some wave-sailing or mucking around with turns on wind-chop.

Also, when the wind comes from the opposite direction (East), it feels awkward - jumps go pear-shaped and blasting seems uncomfortable.
jermaldan
jermaldan
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25 Oct 2013 10:25am
Humans are asymmetric by nature. How many people do you know are ambidextrous?
Cluffy
Cluffy
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25 Oct 2013 4:41pm
When I'm sailing upwind on my old longboard or my formula there is almost always a favoured tack that feels better. This is because most breezes, even oscillating breezes that shift all over the place, are still slowly but persistently shifting in one direction.
Macroscien
Macroscien
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25 Oct 2013 4:08pm
jermaldan said..

Humans are asymmetric by nature. How many people do you know are ambidextrous?

In a car, I am Could drive on the left or right as long as steering wheel is correct positioned.
Then you need even to operate gear box with left or right hand. Doesn't make any difference too.
MikeyS
MikeyS
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25 Oct 2013 5:51pm
My hypothesis is that the tack on which you are more comfortable is the same as your preferred board stance, i.e. regular or goofy. (Not that I surf, but I used to skateboard in the days when I used to have hair). I've always felt more comfortable with my dominant foot in the back strap.

I'm a regular, so right foot back, and preferred tack is port.
fjdoug
fjdoug
ACT
548 posts
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25 Oct 2013 8:10pm
i'm sure everyone here jumps better on one tack, surfs better one way than the other etc..
boardboy
boardboy
QLD
554 posts
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25 Oct 2013 8:04pm
fjdoug said..

i'm sure everyone here jumps better on one tack, surfs better one way than the other etc..


i jump and surf equally terribly in all directions....i must be ambidextrous!

Just kidding...im pretty farkin awesome at all of it really
jsnfok
jsnfok
WA
899 posts
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25 Oct 2013 11:34pm
its pretty normal i reckon, just remember to push yourself that little bit each time, not for the whole session just the first hour
Mistral Nick
Mistral Nick
QLD
370 posts
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26 Oct 2013 9:58am
Hey Peter, remember the current on the Broadwater can be quite strong so sometimes you are on a reach with the current but on the return the current forces you to point. This can give you that sensation that you are not performing as well on the opposite tack.
Macroscien
Macroscien
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26 Oct 2013 10:51am
There is something in my asymmetry. Regardless of place , board and wind.
Always feel more comfortable on one tack then on another.

If could be short run on Broad water or very long on Green Island Marathon.
The main problem when racing - on this one weak tack I am loosing what gained on my strong one

Maybe I will try with harness line or strap adjustment



tilldark
tilldark
QLD
275 posts
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26 Oct 2013 11:53am
I had the same problem, a mate of mine pointed out a stance defect. My issue was that I was too upright (legs too straight) and didn't rake the sail back while putting my weight forward on port tack (just like the other forum guys are saying it was my less favorable side). This greatly reduced my ability to get into a settled position and coax the board upwind without pushing on the tail. When I managed to get it locked down I noticed a big difference.

You should definitely try a seat harness out when on your big sails too mate, personal feeling is that you'll get more performance out of your slalom gear when you do (I've got one you can try if you want, but its "big boy size")

Nicks right too the tide can be a mofo sometimes and really wreck's the uphill performance on some tacks, especially when your heading back to the beach from the bank and trying to stay as high as possible
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
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26 Oct 2013 2:40pm
In any particular wind you will be doing a lot more upwind on one tack than the other. You probably just have to make a conscious effort to go upwind on the other tack more.
Bone74
Bone74
380 posts
380 posts
30 Oct 2013 7:36pm






That's how I sail asymetriic

Bought it in Geraldton 20 yrs ago for $150
Love that board apart from carrying it back car after a sail

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