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gibbo000001
gibbo000001
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73 posts
15 Jun 2025 1:59pm
Hello.
Not a windsurfer but have a question I put in the sailing forum might be better here.
I have a paddleboard and often go on cruises down river systems with tides and winds favourable so that I can reduce paddling as much as possible. I took a kids umbrella out one time in a strong southerly and surprisingly made some great downwind progress. quite slow obviously.
Anyway I wanted to replicate that with something a bit stronger but don't want to go all the way to a windsurfer sail because the windsurfer sails seem to go to fast and I don't want high impact falls. Is it possible to put a smaller windsurfing sail on it and that will
mean your going so slow when you fall off you won't slap her with speed? (Neck issues)

If not looking for something a little larger than an umbrella that can give a little more push than the umbrella and be easy to set up, take down in case an oyster bed appears out of nowhere.
There are holes for a windsurfer sail in the middle of the board and holes up front where a GoPro mount is that can have stuff tied to it.
Was thinking a making a triangle sail with a bedsheet or something like that. Most of the use for this will be downwind stuff. Go with the wind on your back mostly, down a river, and with the tide. Do you guys have any recommendations for how to set it up that will help get more push and or anything else that might be missing and or do you recommend a small windsurfing sail? I only want to go slow.
I often take this board in the ocean surfing but find this stuff fun too.
weird question. Thanks in advance for any responses
powersloshin
powersloshin
NSW
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ka43
ka43
NSW
3101 posts
NSW, 3101 posts
15 Jun 2025 4:39pm
The Home of Parawing Foiling.
https:/parawingfoil.com
This might help you.
WaterNomads
WaterNomads
89 posts
89 posts
15 Jun 2025 3:28pm
You could buy a cheap 4m wing, they are inflatable and easy to use. Or consider creating something like a Batman suit to wear: stretch your arms out and you have some sort of sail. Not sure though how safe this would be in case you fall in...
airsail
airsail
QLD
1598 posts
QLD, 1598 posts
15 Jun 2025 6:08pm
Just get a parawing, perfect for dragging you downwind if there is wind. You will need at least 10knots of wind to fly the parawing and it can be stuffed into a backpack if not needed. Look at brand like Gong or North, they make cheaper beginner parawings but work well.


Mr Milk
Mr Milk
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3137 posts
NSW, 3137 posts
15 Jun 2025 6:47pm
You could try using a small windsurfing rig. It sounds like you want to get dragged in sheltered water, so it won't get you planing.
But unless your SUP has a connector for a mast it won't work.
A windwing is probably best. Learners start off with the wing on a SUP to get used to handling it before getting on a foil.
MobZ
MobZ
NSW
534 posts
NSW, 534 posts
15 Jun 2025 7:17pm
WaterNomads said..
You could buy a cheap 4m wing, they are inflatable and easy to use. Or consider creating something like a Batman suit to wear: stretch your arms out and you have some sort of sail. Not sure though how safe this would be in case you fall in...

I don't know why I'm surprised that somebody allready said it, as it seems obvious to me, wingsuit for sure. And if you ride off a waterfall, all good, fly! I'm sure the neck will be fine as long as you don't ride off waterfalls
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12872 posts
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15 Jun 2025 5:17pm
Trouble with a windsurfing sail, they are best going across the wind. Down wind is much harder, awkward in fact.
I think a small wing would be better. If you want to use a mast, and DIY, go for a small spinnaker.

As for speed, you are limited by windspeed if you're going directly downwind, no matter how big your sail, you'll only get to something less than windspeed, depending on hull drag.
gibbo000001
gibbo000001
73 posts
73 posts
15 Jun 2025 7:22pm
Mr Milk said..
You could try using a small windsurfing rig. It sounds like you want to get dragged in sheltered water, so it won't get you planing.
But unless your SUP has a connector for a mast it won't work.
A windwing is probably best. Learners start off with the wing on a SUP to get used to handling it before getting on a foil.


The sup has a connector for a mast. I'm not foiling just the sup. So in a river system a windsurfing rig would pull me along but slowly? That's the desired outcome
gibbo000001
gibbo000001
73 posts
73 posts
15 Jun 2025 7:36pm
decrepit said..
Trouble with a windsurfing sail, they are best going across the wind. Down wind is much harder, awkward in fact.
I think a small wing would be better. If you want to use a mast, and DIY, go for a small spinnaker.

As for speed, you are limited by windspeed if you're going directly downwind, no matter how big your sail, you'll only get to something less than windspeed, depending on hull drag.


Thanks. This could be the go
jdfoils
jdfoils
450 posts
450 posts
15 Jun 2025 11:11pm
Congratulations, now you will be motivated to earn windsurfing....

Say goodbye to your family, friends and free time.

Subsonic
Subsonic
WA
3413 posts
WA, 3413 posts
16 Jun 2025 7:16am
jdfoils said..
Congratulations, now you will be motivated to earn windsurfing....

Say goodbye to your family, friends and free time.



Isn't this how Taty/Tonky Frans started?
mathew
mathew
QLD
2167 posts
QLD, 2167 posts
16 Jun 2025 1:22pm
MobZ said..

WaterNomads said..
You could buy a cheap 4m wing, they are inflatable and easy to use. Or consider creating something like a Batman suit to wear: stretch your arms out and you have some sort of sail. Not sure though how safe this would be in case you fall in...


I don't know why I'm surprised that somebody allready said it, as it seems obvious to me, wingsuit for sure. And if you ride off a waterfall, all good, fly! I'm sure the neck will be fine as long as you don't ride off waterfalls


I dont know if you are joking or being serious.

Do not use a wingsuit (or any type of body suit to catch the wind) - if you fall into the water, the next 10 seconds will have your life pass before your eyes.

www.uspa.org/about-uspa/uspa-news/tales-from-the-bonfire-a-wet-wingsuit-landing
Mr Milk
Mr Milk
NSW
3137 posts
NSW, 3137 posts
16 Jun 2025 1:37pm
Presumably you'll want to get back to where you started from at some point, so you'll be wanting to unrig whatever you used to get yourself downwind unless you want to paddle really hard. That's going to be easiest to carry if it breaks down small, so parawing or trainer kite would be best.
lemat
lemat
208 posts
208 posts
16 Jun 2025 12:25pm
I don't know why you are so afraid with speed but don't use a diy system if you don't want to fall for nothing with no control. Instead use a valid system.
Imax1
Imax1
QLD
4937 posts
QLD, 4937 posts
16 Jun 2025 2:46pm
I think if you can handle a sup in surf , you should be able to handle windsurfing. +1 for the I rig or a small windsurf rig. You won't look back.
gibbo000001
gibbo000001
73 posts
73 posts
16 Jun 2025 5:21pm
Mr Milk said..
Presumably you'll want to get back to where you started from at some point, so you'll be wanting to unrig whatever you used to get yourself downwind unless you want to paddle really hard. That's going to be easiest to carry if it breaks down small, so parawing or trainer kite would be best.




Nah. Have a mate to pick us up and this may or may not involve a pub or 6
Imax1
Imax1
QLD
4937 posts
QLD, 4937 posts
16 Jun 2025 7:52pm
gibbo000001 said..

Mr Milk said..
Presumably you'll want to get back to where you started from at some point, so you'll be wanting to unrig whatever you used to get yourself downwind unless you want to paddle really hard. That's going to be easiest to carry if it breaks down small, so parawing or trainer kite would be best.





Nah. Have a mate to pick us up and this may or may not involve a pub or 6


Pub six fixes everything.
MobZ
MobZ
NSW
534 posts
NSW, 534 posts
16 Jun 2025 8:27pm
Matthew has a point, wingsuit and water is danger danger. Especially after pub 6.

Sea kayaks use a small sail for downwind.
stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
3571 posts
WA, 3571 posts
17 Jun 2025 11:57am
gibbo000001 said..

The sup has a connector for a mast. I'm not foiling just the sup. So in a river system a windsurfing rig would pull me along but slowly? That's the desired outcome


what river system are you looking at windsurfing / SUPing in?
Grantmac
Grantmac
2383 posts
2383 posts
18 Jun 2025 1:28am
Sea kayaks use a small kind of cone shaped sail. Very stable, downwind only and pack up easy. I don't believe they are expensive.
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