A2 goes 49.04 knots for 500m .

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yoyo
yoyo
WA
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6 Mar 2008 12:51am
New WR speed??

Waiting for official confirmation. Question of margin.

Rules

6. MARGINS
In order to establish a new record the new elapsed time (corrected to 500 metres precisely) must improve on the existing record by a margin as follows:

a. On a course using land based transits and videorecorded timing:

Between records claimed on the same course and when the timing positions have not been moved and on equipment recording to 1/100th second, the margin is 1/50th second.

Old record 48.70 knots = 19.957 seconds for 500m
New Speed 49.04 knots = 19.819 seconds for 500m

0.138 seconds difference . Margin must be greater than 0.02 (1/50)

Therefore should be new WR.

Congrats Antoine.


yoyo
yoyo
WA
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6 Mar 2008 2:16am
49.09 Official

We have a new world speed record holder, Antoine Albeau.
shear tip
shear tip
NSW
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6 Mar 2008 10:03am
Do we know if he was wearing a GPS? I'd love to see a 2 sec peak.
ka43
ka43
NSW
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6 Mar 2008 10:53am
Seems his peak speed was just under 55 knots, thats just smokin'!!!!!!!!!
ka43
ka43
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6 Mar 2008 10:55am
Me idiot, that was wind speed, sorry!!
Stewie
Stewie
VIC
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6 Mar 2008 11:25am
Good to see windsurfer still has it, not some weird useless boat or a kite.
Ian K
Ian K
WA
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6 Mar 2008 9:46am
I share your sentiments Stewie, but brace yourself for Hydroptere. I've heard it's the one to watch. It's a proper boat, it's even got a railing you can lean over to watch the ocean slip by below.

www.metacafe.com/watch/501669/hydroptere/
evlPanda
evlPanda
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6 Mar 2008 11:54am
Ian K said...

I share your sentiments Stewie, but brace yourself for Hydroptere. I've heard it's the one to watch. It's a proper boat, it's even got a railing you can lean over to watch the ocean slip by below.

www.metacafe.com/watch/501669/hydroptere/


Yeah but they've got inspirational, cinematic music and all, I think that may be breaking the rules.
hardie
hardie
WA
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6 Mar 2008 10:08am
shear tip said...

Do we know if he was wearing a GPS? I'd love to see a 2 sec peak.



There's a photo of him wearing one.
evlPanda
evlPanda
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6 Mar 2008 12:10pm
hardie said...

shear tip said...

Do we know if he was wearing a GPS? I'd love to see a 2 sec peak.



There's a photo of him wearing one.



Where? where? where are you getting all this info from? Please share.
hardie
hardie
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6 Mar 2008 10:52am
evlPanda said...

hardie said...

shear tip said...

Do we know if he was wearing a GPS? I'd love to see a 2 sec peak.



There's a photo of him wearing one.



Where? where? where are you getting all this info from? Please share.



Go the The GPS and Speed section look under the Canal thread and there is a stack of photo's
nebbian
nebbian
WA
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6 Mar 2008 10:57am
So the windsurfers are clawing their way back to where the kiters are...

Only 0.7 of a knot to go. At least the poley record is official.

New world record! YAY!!!
Red5
Red5
VIC
51 posts
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6 Mar 2008 1:05pm
Wow that is impressive, going that fast without a KA sail is a super human effort. Good to see a simple craft like a windsurfer and a hard charging dude on board is still faster than some techo special boat looking thing designed not to fall apart until 2 seconds after the end of a speed run. So far all the boffins and their boats seem to have done is spend a lot of money and talk a lot theory, I suppose they have to wait for the right weather conditions which only occur once every 400 years or so.
jp747
jp747
1553 posts
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6 Mar 2008 12:11pm
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Speedsailing World Records tumble in Saintes Maries de la Mer

Antoine Albeau (FRA, Starboard) and Patrik Diethelm (ITA, F2, North) have broken the existing speed sailing records today in Saintes Maries de la Mer, France.

After months of waiting for the big mistral winds, the speed canal at the shores of the mediterrean sea came to life again.

Strong mistral winds with 45-50 knots hit the speed strip in a perfect angle, and although the conditions were quite gusty several riders set personal best speeds.

Already the first runs of the "big three" Antoine Albeau, Patrik Diethelm and defending world record holder Finian Maynard (BVI, F2) showed, that this day would have the potential to become historic.

At 9:30 hours Patrik Diethelm was the first one making waves, setting a new world production speed record with his F2 Missile XS at 46.51 knots, subject to WSSRC ratification.

Around noon, 12:29 hours exactly, Frenchman Antoine Albeau hit a big gust and flew down the 1km man made canal. The scoreboard stopped at 49 knots, after extensive video checking with the observer from the World Speed Sailing Record Council, the speed was verified at 49.09 knots, 0.4 knots faster than the old record of Finian Maynard.

The riders then pushed for the elusive 50 knots mark, the magical barrier in speedsailing around the world, but til the end of the day no one was able to increase the previous performances.

this is from [email protected]
stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
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6 Mar 2008 12:14pm
begs the question if a hydrofoil can still be considered a boat. I certainly wouldn't want to be on that boat when it stacks.
yoyo
yoyo
WA
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6 Mar 2008 1:27pm
Why?

It doesn't matter if the lift if produced by displacement (60' Crossbow ), Longshot (hydrofoil) or surface planning (windsurfer).

All three have held speedsailing records. Both planning and hydrofoil use hydrodynamic lift to keep the boat/board afloat. At least Hydroptere still floats when it is not moving unlike Antoine's 35x213 cm board.
X-man
X-man
WA
325 posts
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6 Mar 2008 4:38pm
nebbian said...

So the windsurfers are clawing their way back to where the kiters are...

Only 0.7 of a knot to go. At least the poley record is official.

New world record! YAY!!!


Their GPS is surely less accurate than official speed recording equiment. If so many of them break world records why wouldnt they get the official organisation to record their speeds? Congrats if they do
jp747
jp747
1553 posts
1553 posts
6 Mar 2008 5:54pm
X-man said...

nebbian said...

So the windsurfers are clawing their way back to where the kiters are...

Only 0.7 of a knot to go. At least the poley record is official.

New world record! YAY!!!


Their GPS is surely less accurate than official speed recording equiment. If so many of them break world records why wouldnt they get the official organisation to record their speeds? Congrats if they do


i always wondered about thathmmm..i know there is a plan to merge the sailing and kiting under the wssrc..if they(kiting) made a trench it'd sure be wide for deeper angles..i hate to say this but i think hydroptere has a really good chance since flat or rough seas doesn't really affect the craft so much and in just a couple of outings hit 45 easily that's incredible for such a big onebut congrats in advance to AA one hell of a run makes us all proud
NotWal
NotWal
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7 Mar 2008 8:16pm
Is the kite record not considered the wind speed record or was the kite record not appropriately ratified?
easty
easty
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7 Mar 2008 9:43pm
NotWal said...

Is the kite record not considered the wind speed record or was the kite record not appropriately ratified?


Is kiting actually sailing?
Maybe need 3 categories for speed records.
Cat. 1 : craft with fixed mast.
Cat. 2 : craft with uni joint mast.
Cat. 3 : craft with mast made out of string.

elmo
elmo
WA
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7 Mar 2008 8:34pm
easty said...

NotWal said...

Is the kite record not considered the wind speed record or was the kite record not appropriately ratified?


Is kiting actually sailing?
Maybe need 3 categories for speed records.
Cat. 1 : craft with fixed mast.
Cat. 2 : craft with uni joint mast.
Cat. 3 : craft with mast made out of string.




I think that as Sjoukje Bredenkamp holds the Ladies 500m WR on a kite would probably end that question.

http://www.speedworldcup.com/world-records.html
www.sjoukjebredenkamp.nl/site/?page_id=33

I'm sure the "real" yachties look on Windsurfers the same way some windsurfers look on Kiters


Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
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7 Mar 2008 9:51pm
what is the current official mens record on a kite? anyone know?

after watching many kiting and windsurfing DVD's, from a spectators point of view, windsurfing seems to be alot like tennis where there is a large difference between the power or dynamics of the top mens tennis compared to the top womens tennis (absolutley no insult to womens sport intended here) - with the williiams sisters probably being the closest to mens in tennis as far as physical strength, and the Marino twins in windsurfing - unlike kiting where the difference between the top mens and womens doesn't seem to be anywhere as great which would make kiting a terrific generic sport where absolutley everyone including all males and females have an equal chance at being the best at what they do when competing against one another regardless of sex
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
8 Mar 2008 2:50pm
Haircut said...

what is the current official mens record on a kite? anyone know?

after watching many kiting and windsurfing DVD's, from a spectators point of view, windsurfing seems to be alot like tennis where there is a large difference between the power or dynamics of the top mens tennis compared to the top womens tennis (absolutley no insult to womens sport intended here) - with the williiams sisters probably being the closest to mens in tennis as far as physical strength, and the Marino twins in windsurfing - unlike kiting where the difference between the top mens and womens doesn't seem to be anywhere as great which would make kiting a terrific generic sport where absolutley everyone including all males and females have an equal chance at being the best at what they do when competing against one another regardless of sex


So if you're a lightweight and want a speed record, go kiting. I knew I was in the wrong game ... speeding I mean. I think I'll just continue to play my Walter Mitty mind games. Heres Antoine and the crowd is goin wild n 3 minutes later, here's Ricardo executin a perfect double air spock ... There are no limits in the twilight zone.

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